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Old 04-22-2009, 02:50 AM
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You can't compare these two men. Bush loses every single time, morning, noon, or night. Why? Because the village idiot had the benefit of more HINDSIGHT than any previous president. His hindsight was greater than that of Carters.

Yet, Bush went Neanderthal and attacked a sovereign nation unprovoked, a nation that posed no imminent threat to this country. He had to LIE to do it too. He grossly underestimated the resolve of those people in the Middle East, initially dropping bombs in a pompous "shock and awe" display that certainly had those conservatives patting each other on the butt many times. I mean they really got off on what they thought was a game-changer. Turned out that the Islamic ideology prevailed while this country continues to bleed to death. Bush's inactions on the domestic front have set off a free fall across the board.

No, a person would have to be pretty drunk or deranged to find a silver lining in the village idiot's presidency. I don't blame him for hiding at home in a self-imposed life of silence and privacy. He sucks and even HE knows it!

I'll take Carter over Dubya any day.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:48 AM
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There are alot of factors like the housing market and bad loans but initiating a war with a country for no other reason then a personal vendetta cost innocent lives and billions of dollars.If Bush never went after Saddam more then 3000 americans would still be alive and there wouldn't have been as big a need for this stimulus.Think about this--- he gave directly to Iraq over $700 billion plus our daily cost of war there which means the Iraqi war itself has cost us over $1 trillion while on GWB's watch.Carter wasn't a great president but GWB was a disaster!!!

Housing market? Bad Loans?

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"the Iraqi war itself has cost us over $1 trillion"

The Dems have added 3 Trillion to the debt in just a few months.

What specificly did GWB do that was a disaster?
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:54 AM
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Carter did more for PEACE than any President. It was his misfortune he would be at the helm when "blowback" occurred in Iran, but the truth is, the Islamic revolution was largely created by the United States and Britain some 70 years before it happened. 1953-1979 included the political repression as well as the economic repression to an advanced degree from the meddling and training of these two countries. No surprise they they teamed up to invade Iraq. None whatsoever.

And so nice that "Iraq is moving in the right direction" I take that to mean less violence? Because after 6 years of an unnecessary war, that is apparently the only way to measure the "correct direction"



"Carter did more for PEACE than any President."

For example?


"the Islamic revolution was largely created by the United States and Britain"

Don't know much about Islam do you?
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:57 AM
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All this thread is telling everyone is what a horrible president the right wing thinks Bush has been! Think about it, who do they compare him too? Kennedy no, Clinton no, they try to compare him to the president that they have been slandering for 31 years saying how horrible he was, I guess considering how bad Bush is, maybe it's a good comparison for them!
GWB is held in poor esteem by conservatives because he tried to appease the left. His father made the same mistake. Reagan never gave an inch. If he were permitted to run for a third term, he would have won a huge landslide victory.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:09 AM
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Do you think this could have been done peacefully? I rather doubt it.

Never said it would have been bloodless. Look at the result of his inaction, millions upon millions died or were seroiusly wounded in the five wars that resulted, and we haven't seen the worst yet since a soon-to-be nuclear Iran is threatening nuclear Israel. Think anything bad could come from this post-Carter stand-off?
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:14 AM
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And to you, thread resurrector, all I can say is you are living in La La Land.

I suggest you actually learn something about:

1) History
2) Arab culture
3) How it applied to Iraq before we invaded it

Before you state publicly how little you understand it. I find you people bringing up the UN always comical, the same body you will shun and mock you will hide behind with your "explanation" and " legal justification" for the bogus and illegal decision to invade Iraq.

Legacy media? Yea, we can agree with that, they have certainly whitewashed things for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Donnie Rumsfeld

I suggest you actually learn something about:

1) History
2) Arab culture
3) How it applied to Iraq before we invaded it



Do tell professor drive-by!
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:18 AM
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This is pretty much your usual drool, but I have to ask, do you hate everyone, or just the person standing in front of you? I had assumed you were a middle-schooler with fantasies of one day getting laid. If you are middle aged as you say, you need serious help from the mental health community. Anyone who can distort his own perception of reality as much as you do simply to support your torrents of mindless hate is at risk, and so are those around him.

Distort?

How so?
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:20 AM
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Bush was a failure, Carter got a bad rap because he had to face the mess of Vietnam/Nixon/FOrd as well as a huge Oil Embargo which was the main reason for the bad economy

Carter did some good, he put alot of policies to try and get us off our dependency on foriegn oil as well as looking for alternate energy sources, all these were scrapped by Reagan as he looked to cut anything that wasnt profitable for his corporate/war mongering friends

Reagan/Bush/Bush has been the Curse of the United States, Carter gets a bad rap because it is the GOP policy to blame everything on the Democrats


if you are an oil profiteers or a war profiteer or an otherwise corrupt fellow, then I apologize and you probably liked the Reagan/Bush/Bush presidencys
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:23 AM
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You should just take my word for it. That plus the reams of evidence that I and many other posters more credible than you have piled at your feet in previous threads documenting the fraudulent nature of your claims.


Yes. You've seen it over and over again. Yet you persist in proposing the same arguments in this thread as have been thoroughly disproven and discredited in prior threads. How long do you think you can play the same game? Why should anyone be willing to play it along with you? You are descended into trolldom. Enjoy your life there...

Like I said!
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:26 AM
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Is that how "history will judge GWB", by comparring him to select historical figures?
Yes. They are called past presidents.
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