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View Poll Results: Do You Think That Obama's Eligibility Issue Has Any Merit?
YES 102 35.92%
NO 182 64.08%
Voters: 284. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-05-2009, 01:03 AM
 
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I came across something very interesting as to why we do not hear From McCain or the RNC on Obama's eligibility.

Bob Says:
March 4, 2009 at 8:01 am (http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/quoa-warranto-a-new-hope-military-can-now-retreat-in-peace/#comment-5235 - broken link) Leo –
Please notice that same McCain birth certificate lists his parents’ residence also as “Colon,” and not “Coco Solo,” which has its own post office at the time (Closed in 1948).
Why is that important also? Because, that is the explanation why the Panama Health Department did NOT record his birth certificate. The Health Department did NOT record vital statistics on military “families” who were not living in base housing in 1936.
Also, the U.S. State Department has no consular record of his birth, although there are many other such records on births reported from the Canal Zone.
Further, Baja California has NO RECORD of his parents’ application or receipt of a marriage license for their wedding at Caeser’s in Tijuana.
The more you look, the less information that can be found. Plain and simple: McCain’s story that he was born on the Canal Zone at a military installation appears to be BOGUS.
I believe that this is the primary reason that the Republicans are TOTALLY silent on the issue of Obama’s eligibility — because McCain accepted taxpayer matching funds that apparently should be repaid in full.
And this is also the reason why the Republicans are TOTALLY silent on the Obama’s campaign fund-raising abuses.
[Ed. Thanks for pointing all of that out. ]
I'm still waiting on hard evidence that shows Obama is anything but a US born citizen. Like any hard evidence at all.

 
Old 03-05-2009, 01:39 AM
 
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There is so much concern now about candidate fraud that a third state has introduced an amendment to make candidates prove their eligibility.

MO State Rep Proposes State Constitutional Amendment on Candidate Eligibility
The bolded part - it seems like many of the extreme posters here like to make statements that are so vague that they are impossible to prove or rebut.

The actual article came from politico:
Ben Smith's Blog: Missouri Republicans push birth certificate questions to oppose 'tyranny' - POLITICO.com

and the first paragraph is:
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Fifteen Republican members of the Missouri General Assembly have signed on to a state constitutional amendment that appears aimed at advancing the claims of the fringe movement that doubts President Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president.
Doesn't sound exactly like "so much concern", sounds like extremists.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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The bolded part - it seems like many of the extreme posters here like to make statements that are so vague that they are impossible to prove or rebut.

The actual article came from politico:
Ben Smith's Blog: Missouri Republicans push birth certificate questions to oppose 'tyranny' - POLITICO.com

and the first paragraph is:

Doesn't sound exactly like "so much concern", sounds like extremists.
Are you saying that candidate fraud does not bother you or never happens?
 
Old 03-05-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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Wow, this 30% motif just continues to keep coming back. Roughly 30% approved of Bush, 25-30% like Rush, 30% disapprove of the job Obama's doing, and now 30% on this forum think this issue has a leg to stand on. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that the same 30% of the country disproportionately causes most of the ridiculous arguments.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 06:08 PM
 
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Came across this in another forum, thought it might have some relevance to this bloated and useless thread.

Excerpt from judge's ruling in Holilster v. Soetoro:

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This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do. Even in its relatively short life the case has excited the
blogosphere and the conspiracy theorists. The right thing to do is to bring it to an early end.
Plaintiff has not cited a single case that lends even
colorable support to the notion that his alleged "duties" can be the "money or property" to which the interpleader statute applies.... This suit will accordingly be dismissed.
... The issue of the President’s citizenship was raised,vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court.




Hollister.dismissal

 
Old 03-05-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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Are you saying that candidate fraud does not bother you or never happens?
How the **** did you get that from what I wrote?

Damnit, we need education in this country.
Particularly reading comprehension, math/science and basic ****ing logic.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 06:55 PM
 
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Damnit, we need education in this country.
Particularly reading comprehension, math/science and basic ****ing logic.
<raises hand> Is that going to be on the test?
 
Old 03-05-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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How the **** did you get that from what I wrote?

Damnit, we need education in this country.
Particularly reading comprehension, math/science and basic ****ing logic.
You wrote "Doesn't sound exactly like "so much concern", sounds like extremists."

You implied with this statement that you felt people who are concerned about candidate fraud and take any action to that end are extremist. I just wanted to find out where you stand on the subject because either you do or you don't care. It is a very simple question that could have been answered with a yes or no but, for some reason you needed to rant about the simple question. Are you for or against protecting against candidate fraud?
 
Old 03-05-2009, 07:55 PM
 
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Wow, this 30% motif just continues to keep coming back. Roughly 30% approved of Bush, 25-30% like Rush, 30% disapprove of the job Obama's doing, and now 30% on this forum think this issue has a leg to stand on. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that the same 30% of the country disproportionately causes most of the ridiculous arguments.
Do you apply that same philosophy to all minorities or is it just the ones that fit into your agenda?
 
Old 03-05-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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Another State Representative and
An active duty member of military intelligence joined this legal action. Name withheld for time being
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