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There is no "theory of evolution." Evolution is an irrefutable, verifiable, empirical fact, and has been since Egyptians first invented horticulture almost 5,000 years ago. The controversy is one of ignorance, not fact.
There's selective breeding. Is that want you mean? This thread is about the "Theory of Evolution" which combines the ideas of random mutation and natural selection. That was Darwin's contribution to science, and was new at the time.
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Charles Darwin's book is entitled the "Origin of the Species", not the "Theory of Evolution". Darwin theorized within "Origin of the Species" that one species can evolve into a completely different species. This entire "theory of evolution" nonsense is entirely a religiously based concept that has absolutely no basis in reality.
Not exactly. It's not 'one species evolving into another.' It's that all the diversity of life on earth can be explained by the ToE. In other words, all species may have arisen from a common ancestor.
And your last sentence is just absolute lunacy, for which there is no adequate response. Sort of like arguing with someone who says "there's no way man ever landed on the moon." You can't present any argument to such people.
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Those who think evolution is a theory are only demonstrating their own ignorance.
Evolution is a theory. That's why it's called the Theory of Evolution. Your own ignorance is fairly screaming from your post.
Evolution is a theory. That's why it's called the Theory of Evolution. Your own ignorance is fairly screaming from your post.
There is no "theory of evolution", except among the uneducated religious wackos who can't let their Creationism myth go. Christian religious fanatics have a vested interest in maintaining the "theory of evolution" myth in order to propagate their "Intelligent Design" hogwash.
You can't have one without the other. So if they ever come around to reality and finally admit that evolution is an empirical fact, and has been for thousands of years, then at the same time they are admitting "Intelligent Design" is a lie.
So only the uneducated religious nuts are keeping this "theory of evolution" myth alive. Anyone with an elementary school biology education knows better.
There is no "theory of evolution", except among the uneducated religious wackos who can't let their Creationism myth go. Christian religious fanatics have a vested interest in maintaining the "theory of evolution" myth in order to propagate their "Intelligent Design" hogwash.
You can't have one without the other. So if they ever come around to reality and finally admit that evolution is an empirical fact, and has been for thousands of years, then at the same time they are admitting "Intelligent Design" is a lie.
So only the uneducated religious nuts are keeping this "theory of evolution" myth alive. Anyone with an elementary school biology education knows better.
Really? Everbody knows this? Find a link to one.
And the ToE has been "true" since life began - much longer than "thousands of years." Your ideas are really far from the mainstream, and your presentation of them, as if you get it and everyone else is an idiot, makes you look dumb.
Glitch is a mirror image of the creationists who don't know what the word "theory" means. He's an evolutionist who doesn't know what the word means. Guess there have to be a few of those around.
Glitch is a mirror image of the creationists who don't know what the word "theory" means. He's an evolutionist who doesn't know what the word means. Guess there have to be a few of those around.
I guess. I've never heard of one though. It took me a few posts to figure out just what kind of denialist I was dealing with. I guess it's still not obvious to me.
As an aside, check out the comments near the end of this thread.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
I absolutely do believe in science, thank you very much. I just don't believe that science has ever provided any credible evidence for evolution, nor can they, and I believe evolution is a hoax.
Do you realize how many times the same processes would have to have been miraculously (perhaps a bad choice of words in this case) recreated for the same organ (an eyeball for example) to "evolve" in all the many different species? What are the chances of that. Unless you're going to tell me that everything "evolved" from one species.
Sorry. I'm not buying it. Evolution is just plain ridiculous. That's all.
Uh, yeah. The idea is that every living thing evolved from a single ancestor if you go back far enough. Even in animals today there are significant differences in complexity levels in the eye. Some animals only have clusters of light sensitive cells arranged in a depression in the skin such as planarians. Others have eyes built like pinhole cameras, like the nautilus.
Then you have the mammal eye, which has the retina built ass backwards, with the blood vessels and nerves between the light coming into the eye and the light sensitive cells. That's why mammals have a blind spot, since that's the area where the blood vessels and nerves come through the retina. Octopus and squid don't have that problem. If the mammal eye was intelligently designed, I wouldn't call the designer terribly intelligent.
Uh, yeah. The idea is that every living thing evolved from a single ancestor if you go back far enough. Even in animals today there are significant differences in complexity levels in the eye. Some animals only have clusters of light sensitive cells arranged in a depression in the skin such as planarians. Others have eyes built like pinhole cameras, like the nautilus.
Then you have the mammal eye, which has the retina built ass backwards, with the blood vessels and nerves between the light coming into the eye and the light sensitive cells. That's why mammals have a blind spot, since that's the area where the blood vessels and nerves come through the retina. Octopus and squid don't have that problem. If the mammal eye was intelligently designed, I wouldn't call the designer terribly intelligent.
hoo-boy.....I can almost see the creationists trotting out their next ploy now! The old-"but look how complex the eye is! It MUST HAVE been a product of a designer" argument!!! An oldie, but a goodie!
Its a favorite in the creationist's bag of tricks, but as Hesster's demonstrates will easily be countered.
There is no "theory of evolution", except among the uneducated religious wackos who can't let their Creationism myth go. Christian religious fanatics have a vested interest in maintaining the "theory of evolution" myth in order to propagate their "Intelligent Design" hogwash.
You can't have one without the other. So if they ever come around to reality and finally admit that evolution is an empirical fact, and has been for thousands of years, then at the same time they are admitting "Intelligent Design" is a lie.
So only the uneducated religious nuts are keeping this "theory of evolution" myth alive. Anyone with an elementary school biology education knows better.
Please stop posting about this. You make the realists who know what they are saying look bad.
Yes, evolution is a theory - a scientific theory. So is gravity.
A scientific theory or law represents an hypothesis, or a group of related hypotheses, which has been confirmed through repeated experimental tests. Theories in physics are often formulated in terms of a few concepts and equations, which are identified with "laws of nature," suggesting their universal applicability. Accepted scientific theories and laws become part of our understanding of the universe and the basis for exploring less well-understood areas of knowledge. Theories are not easily discarded; new discoveries are first assumed to fit into the existing theoretical framework. It is only when, after repeated experimental tests, the new phenomenon cannot be accommodated that scientists seriously question the theory and attempt to modify it. The validity that we attach to scientific theories as representing realities of the physical world is to be contrasted with the facile invalidation implied by the expression, "It's only a theory." For example, it is unlikely that a person will step off a tall building on the assumption that they will not fall, because "Gravity is only a theory." Introduction to the Scientific Method
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Those crazy religious fanatics.
