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You’re right; it was an emotional response to the Dunblane Massacre and had no other basis. It’s worth noting, however, that Britain never had anywhere near the level of handgun violence of the U.S. despite the fact that handguns were legal there until 1997. Also, despite their bans, handgun crime has continued to rise in the U.K, just as it did in Washington when they banned handguns.
If they really wish to keep it that way, they'd do well to examine the underlying causes of violence, which as it happens are unrelated to the tools people use to commit the violence. The ban smacks of emotionalism and speaks poorly of their ability to see the bigger picture.
This is the last time i go over this, i feel i have to repeat myself constantly in this forum about Scotlands crime rate.
Sorry but our crime rate in Scotland has fallen by 7%, gun crime is a rarity here unlike the U.S where the majority of crimes are commited with handguns.
Please read carefully
30 December 2008 07:00 AM
Scotland had a reduction of 8.7% over the year with Tayside showing a decrease of 8.2%, with 608 violent crimes recorded by the police in the region, according to a report in the Dundee Evening Telegraph.
Tayside had a rise in the level of homicides from four last year to seven in 2007-2008.
The figures are from the HM Inspectorate of Constabulary for Scotland's recent Scottish Policing Performance Framework annual report.
Fife saw violent crime fall by 13.6%, the second biggest fall in violent offences in Scotland.
Fife Police said that high-visibility patrols and a crackdown on antisocial behaviour helped see the reduction in violent crime.
The Northern Division showed the largest reduction with a drop of 24.5%.
The force at the bottom of the table was the Lothian and Borders with a reduction on only 4.3%.
Strathclyde has the highest rate of violent crime at 3.5 per 1,000 while Dumfries and Galloway had the lowest level with just one per 1,000.
Violent crimes include murder, assault, robbery, cruelty to children, threats and extortion and made up just over one per cent of all offences recorded in Scotland.
What Americans fail to understand is that we are NOT America, plain and simple our culture is different we dont not have the gang violence or the drive by shootings or the mass shootings, our crime is a different crime all together what works here would never work there because your streets/criminals are already armed to the teeth because guns are so widely available. I know why people use guns to protect themselves there but it is not neccessary here.
Gun control would not work in the U.S that is my opinion, too far gone for that.
With us, its a different story. So lets move on shall we.
I rest my case.
Last edited by Scotslass; 01-19-2009 at 11:52 AM..
Well gun crime is more prevalent there than here, gun crime is a rarity here like i mentioned previously.
If i was a criminal and over in the US i'd pick a gun. Common sense.
I think yall should come experience Scotland because yall obviously have no idea what our culture is like. My fiance is American and has been living here for 3 years. He has never felt safer. I dont know what this problem is that Americans have with our gun control, is it because it actually works here unlike there????
I have no problem with the 2nd ammendment but it just wouldn't work here, im happy with our laws. Our crime has fallen by 7% so we must be doing something right.
This is the last time i go over this, i feel i have to repeat myself constantly in this forum about Scotlands crime rate.
Sorry but our crime rate in Scotland has fallen by 7%, gun crime is a rarity here unlike the U.S where the majority of crimes are commited with handguns.
Please read carefully
30 December 2008 07:00 AM
Scotland had a reduction of 8.7% over the year with Tayside showing a decrease of 8.2%, with 608 violent crimes recorded by the police in the region, according to a report in the Dundee Evening Telegraph.
Tayside had a rise in the level of homicides from four last year to seven in 2007-2008.
The figures are from the HM Inspectorate of Constabulary for Scotland's recent Scottish Policing Performance Framework annual report.
Fife saw violent crime fall by 13.6%, the second biggest fall in violent offences in Scotland.
Fife Police said that high-visibility patrols and a crackdown on antisocial behaviour helped see the reduction in violent crime.
The Northern Division showed the largest reduction with a drop of 24.5%.
The force at the bottom of the table was the Lothian and Borders with a reduction on only 4.3%.
Strathclyde has the highest rate of violent crime at 3.5 per 1,000 while Dumfries and Galloway had the lowest level with just one per 1,000.
Violent crimes include murder, assault, robbery, cruelty to children, threats and extortion and made up just over one per cent of all offences recorded in Scotland.
What Americans fail to understand is that we are NOT America, plain and simple our culture is different we dont not have the gang violence or the drive by shootings or the mass shootings, our crime is a different crime all together what works here would never work there because your streets/criminals are already armed to the teeth because guns are so widely available. I know why people use guns to protect themselves there but it is not neccessary here.
Gun control would not work in the U.S that is my opinion, too far gone for that.
With us, its a different story. So lets move on shall we.
I rest my case.
What new gun laws did they pass this past year in Scotland that accounted for the sudden drop in crime? Or was is simply that, "Fife Police said that high-visibility patrols and a crackdown on antisocial behaviour helped see the reduction in violent crime?"
You’re right; it was an emotional response to the Dunblane Massacre and had no other basis. It’s worth noting, however, that Britain never had anywhere near the level of handgun violence of the U.S. despite the fact that handguns were legal there until 1997. Also, despite their bans, handgun crime has continued to rise in the U.K, just as it did in Washington when they banned handguns.
If they really wish to keep it that way, they'd do well to examine the underlying causes of violence, which as it happens are unrelated to the tools people use to commit the violence. The ban smacks of emotionalism and speaks poorly of their ability to see the bigger picture.
Well gun crime is more prevalent there than here, gun crime is a rarity here like i mentioned previously.
If i was a criminal and over in the US i'd pick a gun. Common sense.
I think yall should come experience Scotland because yall obviously have no idea what our culture is like. My fiance is American and has been living here for 3 years. He has never felt safer. I dont know what this problem is that Americans have with our gun control, is it because it actually works here unlike there????
It's beautiful, but there's a reason that Scotland has some of the best sweaters and whiskey. Awfully cold at times.
What new gun laws did they pass this past year in Scotland that accounted for the sudden drop in crime? Or was is simply that, "Fife Police said that high-visibility patrols and a crackdown on antisocial behaviour helped see the reduction in violent crime?"
That part was for Fife another state within Scotland, the high visability patrols was for there. They must have had problems with antisocial behavior, lets remember that violent crime is not always murder.
Violent crime (murder) isn't a big problem in these parts. You'll find the majority of our crime comes from Glasgow's suburbs.
Shootings are indeed a rarity here and im glad. Actually most crime is a rarity where i am.
Also, despite their bans, handgun crime has continued to rise in the U.K, just as it did in Washington when they banned handguns.
You can't say that handgun crime went up in D.C. before the ban was overturned. Limiting easy access to handguns in D.C., however, was still going to be trumped with Virginia so near, where almost no restrictions exist. The ban helped but could be circumvented anyway if access was the only concern.
Either way, studies show that crime went down and that a majority of D.C. residents wanted to keep the ban in place.
That part was for Fife another state within Scotland, the high visability patrols was for there. They must have had problems with antisocial behavior, lets remember that violent crime is not always murder.
Violent crime (murder) isn't a big problem in these parts. You'll find the majority of our crime comes from Glasgow's suburbs.
Shootings are indeed a rarity here and im glad. Actually most crime is a rarity where i am.
I hope this isn't rude, but what part of Scotland are you from? My mother's family were from Perth.
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