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View Poll Results: Do you believe America's political system is underachieving?
Yeah... 13 81.25%
Naw.... 2 12.50%
Not sure.... 0 0%
Don't care either way... 1 6.25%
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Our government was designed to act slowly. Something about the tyranny of the majority.
Yeah, i know what you mean, especially during the Katrina fiasco.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:19 AM
 
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Yeah, i know what you mean, especially during the Katrina fiasco.
Come on now, you know they were referring to the legislative process and not a response to a disaster or crisis.

However, as to the question of "our political system underachieving", I'm nearly finished with Andrew Bacevich's book The Limits of Power, and he went into great detail talking about how American culture and politics have have diminished our Democracy and asserts that we have a situation now where we are an imperial Presidency and due to this a diminished political system in general. His case is quite compelling and if you ever get the chance, I would recommend reading a bit on the guy as his insights are pretty critical, especially considering his background.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Come on now, you know they were referring to the legislative process and not a response to a disaster or crisis.

However, as to the question of "our political system underachieving", I'm nearly finished with Andrew Bacevich's book The Limits of Power, and he went into great detail talking about how American culture and politics have have diminished our Democracy and asserts that we have a situation now where we are an imperial Presidency and due to this a diminished political system in general. His case is quite compelling and if you ever get the chance, I would recommend reading a bit on the guy as his insights are pretty critical, especially considering his background.
To be fair, that "disaster" did involve a legislative process to some degree. The Feds, after the state and local were rendered useless by the storm, were waiting for "just waiting for the right requests, submitted in just the right way". Even after all that, the Feds were still skeptical to send in troops to help.

To stray off-topic a bit, this is where GWB could of sealed his legacy for the better; a golden oppurtunity missed. It only showed what type of leader for what he's worth; unfit to lead the U.S. After stating he read Abe Lincoln books, i'm sure he'd would of taken a different approach, but apparently not.

At last, thanks for the book tip. I'll be sure to check it out!

One for you that's worthy - The Next Government of the United States, Why Our Institutions Fail Us and How to Fix Them by Donald F. Kettl

Take care.......
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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To be fair, that "disaster" did involve a legislative process to some degree. The Feds, after the state and local were rendered useless by the storm, were waiting for "just waiting for the right requests, submitted in just the right way". Even after all that, the Feds were still skeptical to send in troops to help.

To stray off-topic a bit, this is where GWB could of sealed his legacy for the better; a golden oppurtunity missed. It only showed what type of leader for what he's worth; unfit to lead the U.S. After stating he read Abe Lincoln books, i'm sure he'd would of taken a different approach, but apparently not.

At last, thanks for the book tip. I'll be sure to check it out!

One for you that's worthy - The Next Government of the United States, Why Our Institutions Fail Us and How to Fix Them by Donald F. Kettl

Take care.......
Splitting hairs, but it did NOT have to do with the legislative process. The requests were being submitted to the Executive branch of government which was charged with responding to the crisis. It was Executive branch rules and regulations that tied up the response, not Congressional rules and regulations.
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