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Old 01-20-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Myth? (About Bush not being elected fairly, twice)

These ultimately resulted in a December 12 7-2 United States Supreme Court decision stating that the Florida Supreme Court's plan for recounting ballots was unconstitutional, as well as a 5-4 decision that ended the Florida recounts and allowed Florida to certify its vote. The vote was certified according to Florida state election law by Katherine Harris, the Republican Secretary of State who had been the Florida co-chair of Bush's campaign.[36] Because Bush's younger brother, Jeb Bush, was the governor of Florida, there were allegations that Harris and Jeb Bush had manipulated the election to favor the governor's brother.

According to the claims of the 2002 book Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose The Myth of a Free Press (Kristina Borjesson) which tells the stories of 15 investigative journalists, 58,000 names had been taken off the voters list by governor Jeb Bush and Secretary Harris. They explained this by saying that these were people with criminal records and they were not entitled to their right to vote. According to the journalist Greg Palast this only applied to a small minority of these people. Of these people who were taken away their right to vote in November 2000, always according to the claim of Palast, 54% of them were Black and many were White or Hispanic Democrat supporters.[37][38]
From 2000 election wiki

From 2004 election wiki
I don't need "wiki" to know what happened. Regarding the 2000 election, Bush won the original vote and every recount (including hand recounts).
The Gore camp tried to change the rules after an election by having the certification deadline extended and by the endless hand recounts.

As for 2004, again, Bush won the original count in Ohio. And the recounts. Kerry would have had to win over 60% of the recounts to win that state and that was very unlikely.

If there was any legitimate and credible "stealing of votes" that certainly would have been brought up by lawsuits and other means.
That also applies to those who "had their votes taken away." How many citizens filed lawsuits about that?
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Where the light shines
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Na na na na...na na na na...hey..hey..hey...trailer trash.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Where the light shines
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I've been in and around the military for over 30 years.

Bush is not wildly popular among the military.

He's popular among a vocal group of military members and people have been afraid, yes afraid, to speak out against him (judicial punishment, you know). Neocons and social conservatives love him and there are a lot of them in the military; but certainly not enough to make Bush VERY popular.

You should have seen them at the DFAC tonight watching the inaguration.
That was not a group of people who love(d) Bush. There was a lot of cheering for President Obama, though.

Speak for yourself, fine. But please don't speak for all the military.

Really, I'd be curious to know your affiliation with a sample of so many in the military. Sounds like a poll taker here.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:46 PM
 
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Regarding the 2000 election, Bush won the original vote and every recount (including hand recounts).
yep, every single one.

but when has cold, hard reality been enough to pry this treasured delusion from the BDS-afflicted?
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Na na na na...na na na na...hey..hey..hey...trailer trash.
Bush's ranch is a trailer? Damn, maybe I need to move up to one of those.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:49 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
I've been in and around the military for over 30 years.

Bush is not wildly popular among the military.

He's popular among a vocal group of military members and people have been afraid, yes afraid, to speak out against him (judicial punishment, you know). Neocons and social conservatives love him and there are a lot of them in the military; but certainly not enough to make Bush VERY popular.

You should have seen them at the DFAC tonight watching the inaguration.
That was not a group of people who love(d) Bush. There was a lot of cheering for President Obama, though.

Speak for yourself, fine. But please don't speak for all the military.

At least he has been in the military. He was just answering another poster who thought they had a right to speak for the entire military. That is the loss of freedom I am talking about. I have never seen so many people who think a person should NOT have a right to their own opinion. I am afraid you will all soon see what I have already seen. Freedom is a thing of the past for a conservative person.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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At least he has been in the military. He was just answering another poster who thought they had a right to speak for the entire military. That is the loss of freedom I am talking about. I have never seen so many people who think a person should have a right to their own opinion. I am afraid you will all soon see what I have already seen. Freedom is a thing of the past for a conservative person.
When was the last conservative president? bush wasn't conservative.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:58 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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When was the last conservative president? bush wasn't conservative.
Whether a president is conservative or not has nothing to do with losing ones right to express oneself. Communism is what I am talking about. Bush was not communist. I am not so sure about the one we have now. That remains to be seen. I am only looking at his background and the way he was brought up. I fear for America.

Now for all those who think he is a help for the stock market. LOL
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Maybe in your sick sorry world but in reality President Bush is VERY popular among the military. Myself who just got out less than a year ago supports him as do a number of my friends and family.

Your comments are sad and very childish. One would hope you would have some class but as your posts indicate little or no chance of that happening.
He is not popular with anyone including his wife. How can you say that. Military familes want to put a weapon in his hand and send him over to that hell hole God forsaken place and fight some one elses fight. You are a discrace to the miliitary if you feel that way. How dare you. You insulted me as well as anyone who has served.

You are only one of 9 people left on the face of the earth who like that usleless waste of human flesh. Dont brag about it.

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Old 01-20-2009, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I can't stand Bush, but I think it was rude and classless.
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