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Old 01-22-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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Again you are making it sound like we are raping people by the dozens and I can say as some one who was there I never saw nor heard of this on such a scale. Yes it happened a few times, which is far to many, but it's not like our goal is to go out and rape and kill any we see.
Pack, Most men in the military are not rapists, and I never said that they were. They are protecting us by fighting for America and for freedom. I admire that, but it seems like you are saying that only a few get raped or tortured, when I consider a few less than a handful. and I am telling you that at Gito there was a lot of torture and killing as well as rape, and that it happens more than a dozen times. But again, most men do not engage in this practice.

This is what I am saying:

Rape in the military: Too often condoned - by Steven Walker - Helium

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The military does not condone drugs, traitorous activities, rapes, destruction of personal property,(unless it's the enemy) and vigorously applies UCMJ to such activities.
Is There an Army Cover Up of Rape and Murder of Women Soldiers? | CommonDreams.org

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The Department of Defense statistics are alarming -- one in three women who join the US military will be sexually assaulted or raped by men in the military. The warnings to women should begin above the doors of the military recruiting stations, as that is where assaults on women in the military begins -- before they are even recruited.
But this does not mean that most men are doing these things.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Gee, how many rapes and murders are an acceptable number to you?
Or are you one of the people who would choose to rape and murder?
You don't seem to have a problem with it at all.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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So does that mean we should have booed and hissed or slapped Carter and Clinton when they left office? Carter left the country much worse off than Bush did but he was allowed to leave without such insulting responses. So childish
Would you care to explain how Carter left the country worse off than Bush??? To me - you're just blowing smoke..

Bush left us in far worse financial shape - the banking sector is near collapse -and we have already had trillions in bailouts...

Bush left us with a needless and very expensive war in Iraq...

Bush left us a red vs blue country...

Bush reduced many of our civil liberties, and ruined our reputation throughout the world.

9/11 happened on Bush's watch - and we never made a strong effort to bring Bin Laden to justice.

Bush ran our national debt over 11 TRILLION dollars - he more than doubled the debt...

So - what did Carter do that could remotely compare to this? And don't just say high interest rates...
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:27 PM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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Would you care to explain how Carter left the country worse off than Bush??? To me - you're just blowing smoke..

Bush left us in far worse financial shape - the banking sector is near collapse -and we have already had trillions in bailouts...

Bush left us with a needless and very expensive war in Iraq...

Bush left us a red vs blue country...

Bush reduced many of our civil liberties, and ruined our reputation throughout the world.

9/11 happened on Bush's watch - and we never made a strong effort to bring Bin Laden to justice.

Bush ran our national debt over 11 TRILLION dollars - he more than doubled the debt...

So - what did Carter do that could remotely compare to this? And don't just say high interest rates...
not to mentioned that bush violated every amendment except housing our soldiers.....all but that one, have all been defiled

sha na na na HEY HEY HEY goodbye
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Would you care to explain how Carter left the country worse off than Bush??? To me - you're just blowing smoke..

Bush left us in far worse financial shape - the banking sector is near collapse -and we have already had trillions in bailouts...Largely due to loans that banks were forced to make to people, initiated under the Clinton admin.

Bush left us with a needless and very expensive war in Iraq...needless? That's opinion.

Bush left us a red vs blue country...Really nothing new.

Bush reduced many of our civil liberties, and ruined our reputation throughout the world. Do you do what you believe is right, or do you do things to make people like you?

9/11 happened on Bush's watch - and we never made a strong effort to bring Bin Laden to justice. It happened early under Bush's watch and we have not been attacked in 7 years since, even though many "experts" predicted another attack within 2.

Bush ran our national debt over 11 TRILLION dollars - he more than doubled the debt...

So - what did Carter do that could remotely compare to this? And don't just say high interest rates...
Now we are looking at spending almost another trillion in "stimulus".
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Kentucky/ Displaced Texan
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Rape in the U.S. Military

According to Amnesty International, and other women’s rights groups working with it on this campaign, there has been an alarming rise in the number of rapes and sexual assaults against women in uniform, especially in Iraq. Who is raping American women soldiers in Iraq? Not Baath party loyalists, or the Al Queada terrorists allegedly pouring into the country – but their fellow American soldiers!

AFN runs public service announcements several times a day on each channel about rape in the military. If they're presenting PSAs, it is a big deal. They don't present PSAs on a topic that's not a big problem.

Yeah, the US needs more soldiers like Packersnut, the kind that think that rape and murder is absolutely ok. NOT.

WOW you posted a link about the military from a Socalist website, do you think and I use that term loosely with you, that they might have an agenda?

Of course you are the same person who posted a Porno website and claimed it was a picture of US troops raping a women.

Logic give it a shot some time.
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Kentucky/ Displaced Texan
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I found this ironic from your first link

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Civilians soon must quit stereotyping military personnel as high on testosterone and needing to prove their manhood on an hourly basis.

Your second article is interesting, I would agree that there a problems and some of the cases do sound suspicious. I have researched and I would have to agree that there does seem to be a problem with in the military about rape.


My original argument was in defense of our troops raping Iraqi women, where you have crazygirl claiming we do nothing but rape and murder.
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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not to mentioned that bush violated every amendment except housing our soldiers.....all but that one, have all been defiled

sha na na na HEY HEY HEY goodbye
The former radio guy in me makes me say that it wasn't SHA na na na. That's all I've got to add here. Sorry, but that stuff is important to us dinosaurs of the FM dial.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:26 PM
 
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Funny how liberals think it's great sport to spew poison and hate at a man entrusted with protecting America from terrorism during a time of war ... they attacked him relentlessly 24/7/365, they mocked him, slandered him, for the way he looked, the way he talked, everything.

They attacked the kids of a man who was doing his damn best to protect them during a time of war from unspeakable horror in cities across this nation. Liberals relished every minute of it. They continuously thought up new ways to destroy Bush while he protected them. Members of congress shared intelligence secrets, human shields went to Iraq, liberals sided with Saddam, liberals assualted US military personnel and that's just the tip of the iceberg. They can't in good taste say, "Well he at least kept us safe after 9/11". And they wonder why the US is in such a mess?! What human being could withstand 8 years of commedians, commentators, TV anchors and fellow politicians trash-talking them? Nobody. Liberals created this mess.

But now ... now ... they want us to adore, worship and sing praise songs about Obama and write poetry about Obama. Are you kidding me!?
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:06 AM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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The former radio guy in me makes me say that it wasn't SHA na na na. That's all I've got to add here. Sorry, but that stuff is important to us dinosaurs of the FM dial.
Perhaps: Sha nah nah nah....now I might just have to google it before I go to bed tonight
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