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Old 01-20-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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Finally, a Black man holds the position of most powerful and influential man in the world. I wish him the absolute best, and I give him my whole-hearted support (I even voted for him, even though I'm a registered Repuplican).

While I don't think he's going to be able to enact all the "change" he promised in his campaign, I do believe that he will have a major impact on this country, simply for doing nothing more than being voted President.

Why?

Because after Americans ended slavery, enacted Civil Rights, de-segregated our schools, and enacted affirmative action, MANY Blacks are STILL blaming slavery and discrimination for their failures. But now Americans have voted a Black man (well, half-Black, anyway) as our President. And it will be interesting if Black-Americans can FINALLY recognize and acknowledge that the American people of today are not the slave-owners, racists and xenophobes of yesterday.

So any blame for failure among Black-Americans to succeed, from now on has to be placed where it belongs...with Black Americans. No more excuses. No more scapegoats.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:46 PM
 
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Finally, a Black man holds the position of most powerful and influential man in the world. I wish him the absolute best, and I give him my whole-hearted support (I even voted for him, even though I'm a registered Repuplican).

While I don't think he's going to be able to enact all the "change" he promised in his campaign, I do believe that he will have a major impact on this country, simply for doing nothing more than being voted President.

Why?

Because after Americans ended slavery, enacted Civil Rights, de-segregated our schools, and enacted affirmative action, MANY Blacks are STILL blaming slavery and discrimination for their failures. But now Americans have voted a Black man (well, half-Black, anyway) as our President. And it will be interesting if Black-Americans can FINALLY recognize and acknowledge that the American people of today are not the slave-owners, racists and xenophobes of yesterday.

So any blame for failure among Black-Americans to succeed, from now on has to be placed where it belongs...with Black Americans. No more excuses. No more scapegoats.
Bold words. Do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm sure most African Americans would disagree with that offensive way of thinking.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:48 PM
 
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Bold words. Do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm sure most African Americans would disagree with that offensive way of thinking.
Um...isn't that exactly what all the so-called black leaders have been saying for years?

Now, whether or not these leaders truly speak for your rank and file black is debatable...but it's not like the idea that there are blacks blaming slavery for all their ills is some kind of fantasy.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:56 PM
 
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Bold words. Do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm sure most African Americans would disagree with that offensive way of thinking.
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton?? Ringing any bells?

I'm black and I've known plenty of my fellow black people that play the race card every chance they get. It's "I lost my job cuz I'm black," or "they kicked me out cuz I'm black," when in truth they lost their job because they didn't do anything and expected everyone else to do the work for them and they were kicked out of a public place because they were loud, rowdy, offensive, and unruly. There is no "man" to hold us blacks down any longer; the only "man" holding us down is the blacks that perpetuate that they have been mistreated when in reality their skin color had not a thing to do with it.

I know a guy that has had more jobs than most have in a lifetime and everytime he got fired he blamed it on other people saying that they were racists and treated him differently because of his color. Truth is he's just a lousy worker with a big mouth and a temper that couldn't work with others in a civil manner. OP's statement was not offensive at all. Twas the truth put simply.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton DO NOT speak for all black people, even if they think they do.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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Um...isn't that exactly what all the so-called black leaders have been saying for years?

Now, whether or not these leaders truly speak for your rank and file black is debatable...but it's not like the idea that there are blacks blaming slavery for all their ills is some kind of fantasy.
Exactly.

Bill Cosby has been very vocal, most especially about Black men, and has said that it's time for Black-Americans to be accountable for themselves and stop blaming history for everything.

With regard to Blacks still blaming Whites for their failures, have you listened to Reverand Jeremiah Wright lately? He even accuses the American Government of diabolically infecting Black men with the AIDS virus!
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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Exactly.

Bill Cosby has been very vocal, most especially about Black men, and has said that it's time for Black-Americans to be accountable for themselves and stop blaming history for everything.

With regard to Blacks still blaming Whites for their failures, have you listened to Reverand Jeremiah Wright lately? He even accuses the American Government of diabolically infecting Black men with the AIDS virus!
Oh, I can tell you are going to be a genuine Barack supporter. But catchy title to your thread and good way to be less than "genuine."
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:09 PM
 
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I'm with you! I wish Obama all the best, he will be a great president!

What I don't like, however, is his party! If it wasn't for his wingnut supporters, I would have voted for him in the first place. I will decide who I like on my own, I don't want rhetoric to influence my vote.

Besides, Obama has become more and more Conservative since November 4th, so the whole "Obama the Socialist" argument is no longer valid.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:15 PM
 
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Oh, I can tell you are going to be a genuine Barack supporter. But catchy title to your thread and good way to be less than "genuine."
I'm sincere in my support of Obama (after all, I voted for him). He's moved way over to the middle since he was elected, and I think that he's a breath of fresh air for this country.

That's a given. But the point of this post is to ALSO suggest that Obama's presidency might just impact the "blame game" that Black-Americans have played for far too long now.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:18 PM
 
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I'm with you! I wish Obama all the best, he will be a great president!

What I don't like, however, is his party! If it wasn't for his wingnut supporters, I would have voted for him in the first place. I will decide who I like on my own, I don't want rhetoric to influence my vote.

Besides, Obama has become more and more Conservative since November 4th, so the whole "Obama the Socialist" argument is no longer valid.
Obama was supported by Moonbats. Wingnuts are the right wing equivalent of Moonbats.
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