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Old 01-23-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The thing is Cristina, weve all been grouped in as either Democrats or Republicans, left or right, liberal or conservative. Its like a sports team, and lots of people get their feelings hurt when their side isn't looking so hot.
I agree, but this isn't a sports game and we can influence what our elected officials do. We're dropping our standards by accepting the wrongdoing of each party, and that is what is putting America in jeopardy.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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So Democrats are so quick to say Constitution Constitution when it comes to Enemy combatants however when the Constitution has it so the electoral college is in place you never mention it. Interesting.
So you are saying that both sides ignore the Constitution when it suits them? I'll agree with that.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:39 AM
 
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Yeah cristina I was trying to point out that dems and repubs shouldnt even exist, just candidates running on their platform. But on your second point, Bush still did get elected, and no one was saying that it was unconstitutional, so really only the Bush administration has disregarded the constitution to do as they please.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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Yeah cristina I was trying to point out that dems and repubs shouldnt even exist, just candidates running on their platform. But on your second point, Bush still did get elected, and no one was saying that it was unconstitutional, so really only the Bush administration has disregarded the constitution to do as they please.
I'll agree with it all. The two party system worked when the candidates were more moderate. If we look through history, many of the Presidents would never get the vote today.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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Word up, enjoy your rep point.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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I'll agree with it all. The two party system worked when the candidates were more moderate.
I guess you missed the elections of 1828, 1860.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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Haha I'm pretty sure everyone missed those elections, but the point is that the political game has evolved into a much uglier creature than it was before. It just sucks that we have to pick between either red or blue. As this country has shown, neither is perfect. So why do we keep with it?
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:02 AM
 
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I guess you missed the elections of 1828, 1860.
LOL! I was thinking more along the lines of a century later, but good catch.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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But noooo, they have to blame America first!!!!!!
That is because Bush was a much greater threat to the future of this country than either Al Qaeda or the Taliban.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:53 AM
 
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That is because Bush was a much greater threat to the future of this country than either Al Qaeda or the Taliban.
Bush ended up achieving what Al Qaeda couldn't - financial turmoil in the US. We're broke, in debt, and losing millions of jobs.
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