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Old 01-22-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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No, he doesn't think it is a good idea. He thinks it is something we have to do, and I agree with him. After years of mismanagement, and letting things run amuck, it is time to take charge.

Spending itself isn't a bad thing. When I started my business, I had to spend. How I spent my money, where I spent my money, was, however, key.

Obama is going to spend for sure, but where it is needed, and he is going to cut down spending where we have been wasting. He's more than smart to realize the difference. It is his time, and within his capacity. From what I have seen in him, I believe him and will support unless he refuses to make adjustments, and does what I know he can.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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Well when did deficit spending start and why? Why is Obama going into deficit spending now? Deficit spending isn't the "in" thing to do. Every time it's been done the economy was on a downturn anytime taxes are cut it's been on a economic downturn. The tech bubble wasn't a fallacy neither was 9/11, Katrina along with numerous other events that can only be reacted to. Obama is following the same deficit spending idea along with trickle down economics. The only difference is he's going to pull money from defense projects and other things he finds inefficient and he doesn't think necessary and try to save money there and spend money on building more infrastructure. http://comptroller.nyc.gov/bureaus/b...year-later.pdf 9/11 alone cost NY around $90 billion along with the lost lives and what we are now finding out vast number of lung disease cases which is probably immeasurable in terms of cost. $100+ billion in damages, 1000's of lives lost, no idea how far reached the lung disease from it will go. I myself put great importance on defense others don't see it as important.

Just outside looking in if I had to blame anyone in the blowing our money as fast as they can I don't know anyone who could seriously say making it bigger will make it cheaper or more responsible. At least not from anything they have much shown in my life. That's just an observation and opinion only. I'd get a divorce if I could.
He's going to cut spending everywhere there's waste. He wont fund Bridge to Nowhere-type projects in any sector.

He's not going to cut our defense program in any way that will make us weaker or unprepared. Going to Afghanistan wont be cheap. But you know this time we wont be handing spare billions to unpatriotic, government-welfare-dependent war profiteers.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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How many times are the Bush kool aid drinkers going to post this ridiculous LIE. The stories about so-called Clinton vandalism were EXPOSED AS COMPLETE BS about a month after LImbaugh whipped up his dittoheads. Never happened!

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You don't know what you are talking about!

The General Accounting Office, an investigative arm of Congress, said today that ''damage, theft, vandalism and pranks did occur in the White House complex'' in the presidential transition from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush.
The agency put the cost at $13,000 to $14,000, including $4,850 to replace computer keyboards, many with damaged or missing W keys.

Some of the damage, it said, was clearly intentional.
Glue was smeared on desk drawers. Messages disparaging President Bush were left on signs and in telephone voice mail. A few of the messages used profane or obscene language.

The investigation was undertaken in response to a request from Representative Bob Barr, Republican of Georgia, one of Mr. Clinton's harshest critics.
''The Clinton administration treated the White House worse than college freshmen checking out of their dorm rooms,'' Mr. Barr said today.

White House Vandalized In Transition, G.A.O. Finds - New York Times



Bush Spokesman Catalogs Pranks Attributed to Clinton Aides - New York Times


Clinton Transition Left $15,000 Damage, GAO Says

Clinton Transition Left $15,000 Damage, GAO Says - Los Angeles Times
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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He's going to cut spending everywhere there's waste. He wont fund Bridge to Nowhere-type projects in any sector.

He's not going to cut our defense program in any way that will make us weaker or unprepared. Going to Afghanistan wont be cheap. But you know this time we wont be handing spare billions to unpatriotic, government-welfare-dependent war profiteers.
Don't forget the parting of waters!
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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INCREASING spending while running a trillion dollar deficit would indicate it is not an issue.
But it wouldn't indicate that Obama doesn't think it's a big deal.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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You don't know what you are talking about!

The General Accounting Office, an investigative arm of Congress, said today that ''damage, theft, vandalism and pranks did occur in the White House complex'' in the presidential transition from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush.
The agency put the cost at $13,000 to $14,000, including $4,850 to replace computer keyboards, many with damaged or missing W keys.

Some of the damage, it said, was clearly intentional.
Glue was smeared on desk drawers. Messages disparaging President Bush were left on signs and in telephone voice mail. A few of the messages used profane or obscene language.

The investigation was undertaken in response to a request from Representative Bob Barr, Republican of Georgia, one of Mr. Clinton's harshest critics.
''The Clinton administration treated the White House worse than college freshmen checking out of their dorm rooms,'' Mr. Barr said today.

White House Vandalized In Transition, G.A.O. Finds - New York Times



Bush Spokesman Catalogs Pranks Attributed to Clinton Aides - New York Times


Clinton Transition Left $15,000 Damage, GAO Says

Clinton Transition Left $15,000 Damage, GAO Says - Los Angeles Times
And straight from your first link:

The accounting office said similar pranks were reported in prior transitions, including the one from Mr. Bush's father to Mr. Clinton in 1993. ''We were unable to conclude,'' it said, ''whether the 2001 transition was worse than previous ones.''

OOOOOhhh, I get it. Bush's administration decided not to follow tradition. Well good for them!
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:11 PM
 
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And straight from your first link:

The accounting office said similar pranks were reported in prior transitions, including the one from Mr. Bush's father to Mr. Clinton in 1993. ''We were unable to conclude,'' it said, ''whether the 2001 transition was worse than previous ones.''

OOOOOhhh, I get it. Bush's administration decided not to follow tradition. Well good for them!
Wouldnt it have been nice if he'd followed Daddy only in office pranks?
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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Don't forget the parting of waters!
So, you LIKE bloat and government waste?
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So vandalism DID occur...and several posters stated it was a lie...

Hmmm.....I imagine they will be along soon to post their apologies.
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