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Old 01-22-2009, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Wow, they must be getting brave to be going after muslims.
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Wow, they must be getting brave to be going after muslims.
No,only the neoCON sheeple are scared of the muslims .The normal people aren't.
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:27 AM
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Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Wow, they must be getting brave to be going after muslims.


They're not going after Muslims per se, they're going after violators of US/State law and rightly so.

Brave would be going after those like the Saudi scumbags who fund radical Islamic schooling.
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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"The ACLU is not targeting Muslims but defending the U.S. Constitution, whose First Amendment states in part, 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,' Samuelson said."
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Wow, they must be getting brave to be going after muslims.
Lol, right, they're a bunch of chickens, arent they?
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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Wow, kudos to ACLU.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Star Tribune Mobile Edition: Breaking news, weather, sports, stock prices and photos from Minneapolis, St. Paul and around Minnesota (http://m.startribune.com/articles/189882389 - broken link)
Wow, they must be getting brave to be going after muslims.
The ACLU is already one of the bravest organizations in the country. They stand for the Constitution no matter what. They attack the powerful and the popular, and they defend the worst people - all in the name of maintaining our freedoms.

I've always told people that we have a military to defend our country from foreign threats, and we have the ACLU to defend our country from internal threats.

I just recently became an ACLU member and donor. They could use your help, too.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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Wow, they must be getting brave to be going after muslims.
BRAVE? Seperation of Church and State applies to ALL religions, even the ones who may feel they are above the law (i.e. Utah in the 80's).

Good for the ACLU for being fair and just in upholding the constitution.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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They've also defended Rush Limbaugh and Jerry Falwell.

The reason they are out favor with right wingers is that the right wing today is the main culprit in trying to take away civil liberties. On issues such as pornography, gay rights, warrantless wiretapping, and government secrecy.
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:09 PM
 
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Default Duplicity - N.Y. Okays Public School With Hebrew Focus

They say religion will not be taught, but what honest person would believe this? Where is the ACLU? The ACLU has a certain bias, you know.

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N.Y. Okays Public School With Hebrew Focus - Forward.com"

The movement for publicly funded Hebrew language and culture charter schools took a giant step forward as a new charter school for New York City received final approval and plans emerged for a national center to back Hebrew charter school efforts across the country.
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“What’s the purpose going to be? Is the purpose going to be to educate gentiles about the Hebrew language, or is it going to be to educate Jews about Jewish history and Jewish culture and Jewish language?” Deutsch favors the latter.
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“The idea here is to strengthen Jewish identity, but you can’t do it in an open way because you run afoul of the law,” said Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the Union for Reform Judaism and a critic of Hebrew charter schools. “So you end up having rabbis and Jewish educators involved, and in all probability promoting Jewish commitment is exactly what they are looking to do, but they can’t do it openly. It simply will not work.”

Yoffie said the idea would not even work on its own terms to promote Jewish identity. “There’s absolutely nothing in 4,000 years of experience to suggest you can separate out religion and culture and simply teach culture to the exclusion of religion,” he said. “Those two pillars are inextricably intertwined.”
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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They say religion will not be taught, but what honest person would believe this? Where is the ACLU? The ACLU has a certain bias, you know.

on the one hand:
on the other hand:
I like the "on the one hand" business, Reb Tevye.

"An irony in the approval of the Hebrew Language Academy is that it will open in the same borough as the Khalil Gibran International Academy, a public school (though not a charter school) dedicated to Arabic language and culture that ignited a firestorm of controversy in early 2007 when it was first proposed."
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