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Old 01-23-2009, 03:12 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Before antibiotics Bubonic plague was a terrible disease.

Without treatment it is known to kill 50% of the infected within 7 days after infection.

Every few years a case appears here stateside. With early detection and treatment, it rarely kills.

If there became a public awareness of the symptoms, and a concern that it was being spread here, I would think that most folks would be getting treated with the first symptoms.

Treatment is quick and easy using any of these: Streptomycin, Gentamicin, Tetracycline, Doxycycline, or Ciprofloxacin.

Just as a farmer I stock; Streptomycin, Tetracycline, and Ciprofloxacin. Along with a few other things



I can not imagine that a large outbreak would overcome the supply of these common inexpensive antibiotics.

Every hospital has them, every doctor's office, every vet, and many farmers; these are very common antibiotics. And the disease is slow enough that it gives you plenty of time to react.
good post, mr./ms. hysteria-fighter

it pops up practically every year in new mexico, my home state. no one freaks out because they're used to it.

besides, how is it going to be vectored? no vector, no spread. seriously, if it were pneumonic plague we were talking about here, that would be problematic. as it is, this article is so vague and lacking in substance, it's basically useless fluff.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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But hey, Obama's very first executive order, before he was even done dancing with his wife at the balls in his honor was singing legislation to give these find muslims folks their due process and close down their prison. I feel so much safer with Obama in the whitehouse, yes indeed I do!
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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If these fools only spent half the amount of energy on helping mankind, we'd live in a wonderful world.

the same could be said for 99% of the people in this country, especially our leaders
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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ah...yes, Islam-the religion of peace and love
These people are not Muslim.. they are terrorists.. there is a BIG difference.
Why aren't people like you able to understand this?
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper View Post
Before antibiotics Bubonic plague was a terrible disease.

Without treatment it is known to kill 50% of the infected within 7 days after infection.

Every few years a case appears here stateside. With early detection and treatment, it rarely kills.

If there became a public awareness of the symptoms, and a concern that it was being spread here, I would think that most folks would be getting treated with the first symptoms.

Treatment is quick and easy using any of these: Streptomycin, Gentamicin, Tetracycline, Doxycycline, or Ciprofloxacin.

Just as a farmer I stock; Streptomycin, Tetracycline, and Ciprofloxacin. Along with a few other things



I can not imagine that a large outbreak would overcome the supply of these common inexpensive antibiotics.

Every hospital has them, every doctor's office, every vet, and many farmers; these are very common antibiotics. And the disease is slow enough that it gives you plenty of time to react.
If bubonic plague treatment is administered early, the mortality rate is still 15%. The mortality rate is 50% to 90% if it is not treated. Let's assume the CDC and all the hospitals do everything right (which would be a first), if only 100,000 people became infected with bubonic plague in Los Angeles County, and everyone was treated with the appropriate antibiotics early, then approximately 15,000 would still end up dead.

So even when the outbreak is not large, and treated immediately, several times the number of people who were killed on 09/11/01 could still end up dead after a bubonic plague terrorist attack.

You can laugh and joke all you like, but it is a very real and serious threat.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:58 PM
 
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Jan.20, 2009
The London Daily Telegraph reports:
"An al-qaeda cell killed by the Black Death may have been developing biological weapons when it was infected, it has been reported."
The group of 40 terrorists were reported to have been killed by the plague at a training camp in Algeria earlier this month...there are now claims the cell was developing the disease as a weapon to use against western cities.
Dr. Khrupenov, who was once a weapons adviser to the Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev added: Instead of using bombs, people with infectious diseases could be walking through cities.
It was reported last year that up to 100 potential terrorists had attempted to become post graduate students in Britain in an attempt to use laboratories...end...(this sounds familiar)...
this doesnt sound familiar, its no different when indians/pakistanis come and go back to idin from the UK
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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But hey, Obama's very first executive order, before he was even done dancing with his wife at the balls in his honor was singing legislation to give these find muslims folks their due process and close down their prison. I feel so much safer with Obama in the whitehouse, yes indeed I do!
another lame post, what you said makes no sense just cause their are so called terrorist locked up do not mean there arent and wont be others and no new recruits
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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These people are not Muslim.. they are terrorists.. there is a BIG difference.
Why aren't people like you able to understand this?
They are ISLAMIC terrorists - they are MUSLIM - to say they are NOT is nothing but a huge lie...

Why don't YOU understand this???

Why are you so afraid to admit they are Muslim? There are more Islamic Terrorist organizations out there than Carter has liver pills... these guys were definitely Islamic Terrorists who were trying to perfect a WMD and failed.

I'd like to see how apologetic you are for Islam once Islamic Terrorist groups start killing millions with WMD attacks (probably biological or chemical) on western population centers.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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These people are not Muslim.. they are terrorists.. there is a BIG difference.
Why aren't people like you able to understand this?
They ARE muslim and they ARE terrorists.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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If bubonic plague treatment is administered early, the mortality rate is still 15%. The mortality rate is 50% to 90% if it is not treated. Let's assume the CDC and all the hospitals do everything right (which would be a first), if only 100,000 people became infected with bubonic plague in Los Angeles County, and everyone was treated with the appropriate antibiotics early, then approximately 15,000 would still end up dead.

So even when the outbreak is not large, and treated immediately, several times the number of people who were killed on 09/11/01 could still end up dead after a bubonic plague terrorist attack.

You can laugh and joke all you like, but it is a very real and serious threat.
I am not aware of what joke you are talking about.

Did someone tell a joke and I miss it?

It was my understanding that our modern antibiotics make this into a very minor issue.

Are you joking? [since you insist that I am]
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