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Old 01-26-2009, 11:24 AM
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Default Bad news: we're back to 1931. Good news: it's not 1933 yet

Interesting...people will deny it of course as everything is better now.

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This may beat Germany (-7pc) Japan (-12pc) and Korea (-22pc) over the fourth quarter. But that merely underlines the dangers ahead as the collapse of global trade chokes the mini-boom in US exports, setting off another stage of the crisis.
The US is losing 500,000 jobs a month. Brazil lost 650,000 in December. Beijing says 10m Chinese have lost their jobs since the crunch began. Japan's exports fell 35pc last month, year-on-year. The central bank is printing money furiously, buying bonds to prevent a relapse into deflation.
So yes, it is like early 1931. Citigroup and Bank of America have more or less disintegrated. JP Morgan's health is failing fast. General Motors and Chrysler survive only on life-support from the US taxpayer
Bad news: we're back to 1931. Good news: it's not 1933 yet - Telegraph
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:46 PM
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I knew it when I woke up this morning, turned on the radio, and heard President Hoover addressing the nation!
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:49 PM
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great title, hoping against hope it isnt true. I dont know what we little people can do.

LOTS of canned goods...get to know your neighbors...brrrr.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:58 PM
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Not quite, luckily that socialist FDR, established the FDIC, social security, and other social safety nets. Additionally, unlike 1929-1933 the Fed, and the administration understand Keynesian economics.
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Obama is the next FDR, best news I've heard! Maybe someday you guys will find your next Lincoln!
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:15 PM
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Not quite, luckily that socialist FDR, established the FDIC, social security, and other social safety nets. Additionally, unlike 1929-1933 the Fed, and the administration understand Keynesian economics.
Safety nets?
Keep believing that...
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Most Keynesians like the FDR supporters only look at one side of the equation.
The reality is government can't inject money into the economy without first taking it out of the economy. There is no increase in aggregate demand.

Keynesian economics doesn't increase national income it just redistributes it.

Big governments hurt economic performance by misallocating national resources.
Keynesian theory didn't work for Roosevelt any more than it did for Hoover. Unemployment remained high during the 1930's and overall output didn't get back to the 1929 level until World War 2.
Peter Schiff got it right all Keynesian textbooks should be burned.

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Old 01-26-2009, 10:35 PM
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Most Keynesians like the FDR supporters only look at one side of the equation.
The reality is government can't inject money into the economy without first taking it out of the economy. There is no increase in aggregate demand.

Keynesian economics doesn't increase national income it just redistributes it.

Big governments hurt economic performance by misallocating national resources.
Keynesian theory didn't work for Roosevelt any more than it did for Hoover. Unemployment remained high during the 1930's and overall output didn't get back to the 1929 level until World War 2.
Peter Schiff got it right all Keynesian textbooks should be burned.

YouTube - Peter Schiff All Keynesian Textbooks should be burned !!!
Tell that to the people of had to watch their children practicaly starve!
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:36 PM
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Most Keynesians like the FDR supporters only look at one side of the equation.
The reality is government can't inject money into the economy without first taking it out of the economy. There is no increase in aggregate demand.

Keynesian economics doesn't increase national income it just redistributes it.
Good point...as government doesn't produce wealth,how can it add wealth?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:39 PM
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Tell that to the people of had to watch their children practicaly starve!
Tell them what,that FDR's policies didn't help???
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