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Old 01-29-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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You know who loses here. We do. There were and are several flaws with the economic stimulus plan and it's surely destined to fail. 68% of American's are in agreement on this. I wouldn't have put my name on it either.

This "plan" was a huge political mistake for Obama. His lack of experience is really showing. I was afraid of something like this happening when I voted for him.
What alternate universe did you get your stats from?
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Southern Maryland
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Yeah you voted for himlol! We will see if it fails either way the republicans offer is nothing new and is still the policy that landed us in this crisis in the first place!
It's not only ignorant to assume you know how a person voted but it's also very stupid. Unless you were with me in the voting booth I suggest you keep your moronic comments to yourself.

I hope his plan works. If it doesn't it's just another near trillion dollars we'll end up owing China.
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Southern Maryland
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What alternate universe did you get your stats from?
A very liberal one. One of the same one's which predicted an Obama land slide. They were right about that too.

I'm an indpendent so I guess you're correct. That would be considered an alternative universe
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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It's not only ignorant to assume you know how a person voted but it's also very stupid. Unless you were with me in the voting booth I suggest you keep your moronic comments to yourself.

I hope his plan works. If it doesn't it's just another near trillion dollars we'll end up owing China.
Youre right I don't know how you voted only you do! When you say things like 68% of Americans think its going to fail, gives us a pretty good idea about where you are getting your information from! I base my opinion on that!
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You're not an independent if you have to point that out four times in 5-6 posts. But then, it doesn't make a difference either way. What you support is business as usual... it has served this country well, hasn't it?
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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A very liberal one. One of the same one's which predicted an Obama land slide. They were right about that too.

I'm an indpendent so I guess you're correct. That would be considered an alternative universe
If you could please provide it so we can see it for ourselves?
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Spite, pure and simple.

Very thought-provoking analysis from The American Conservative.

"Having blown the obvious opportunity to tap into populist outrage over the bailout, which was supported by perhaps a third of the electorate at most, the leadership now decides to make their stand opposing a bill that commands support from a broad majority of the country, and they do so at a time when their stand, such as it is, will be forgotten by the time the midterms come around.
Indeed, the sudden unanimous opposition of House Republicans to this bill mainly accomplishes one thing, which is to remind everyone of how gutlessly the Republican leadership acquiesced to whatever the Bush administration wanted and how they only managed to discover some interest in resisting massive expenditures when someone from the other party is in the White House. This highlights the past fecklessness and opportunism of the current Republican leadership."

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Old 01-29-2009, 06:18 PM
 
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Spite, pure and simple.

Very thought-provoking analysis from The American Conservative.

"Having blown the obvious opportunity to tap into populist outrage over the bailout, which was supported by perhaps a third of the electorate at most, the leadership now decides to make their stand opposing a bill that commands support from a broad majority of the country, and they do so at a time when their stand, such as it is, will be forgotten by the time the midterms come around.
Indeed, the sudden unanimous opposition of House Republicans to this bill mainly accomplishes one thing, which is to remind everyone of how gutlessly the Republican leadership acquiesced to whatever the Bush administration wanted and how they only managed to discover some interest in resisting massive expenditures when someone from the other party is in the White House. This highlights the past fecklessness and opportunism of the current Republican leadership."
Eunomia » Strange Time To Take A Stand
Actually it's totally consistent with both their voting record on the TARP money and the Republican policies that got us here to begin with.... give away billions to Wall Street and with no accountability, but when it comes to the Man on the Street and the Middle Class, suddenly they're the party of "fiscal responsibility". And that the GOP vote was so unanimous is pretty "in-your-face" when you think about it, really no different than Limbaugh's "I want Obama to fail".

"Spite" it is... they're going down in flames, and they're gonna try to take everybody else with 'em. Well, come the Congressional mid-term campaigns next year, at least it'll be easy to remember how your Representative voted....
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The republicans are following in jesus footsteps as a carpenter! They're putting the last nails in their coffin! They met an extended hand and turned their backs to it!
Wow, thats great. However, please dont compare Republicans to Jesus, as he was one of the greatest men who ever lived. You should compare Republicans to Judas, that would be more accurate
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Were there not also 12 Democrats who voted against it? Why has that not been mentioned?

I am willing to bet if this bailout falls through and fails, the Republicans will get the blame for it.

And for the record, this bailout sounds more like something Pelosi structured, not Obama. If that is really the case, I am somewhat disappointed but understand why it contradicts what Obama has promised us.
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