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Old 01-31-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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Thats the way the democrats do it. I lost my job when my machine shop closed. My congressman (D) voted for NAFTA and every globalization bill that came down the pike in exchange for temp road contruction pork. Now all the machine shops are closed, jobs are gone and the roads are crumbling

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A US IT worker loses his $60,000 a year job and benefits package.

And you think Obama's $15 an hour job laying concrete for a year or two is going to keep that guy from losing his home, his car and his kid's college?
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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Saganista,

Yes, when one person buys something it puts that money into someone else's hand.
Fine. But if that bump in sales happens for just one week, so what.

That won't create $50,000+ a year jobs with benefits packages.

Innovation is about creating new medicines, nano-technology, new treatments, new solutions, etc.

Again, where do $50,000+ a year jobs come from?
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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Its not rich people who get these tax breaks. You seem to think of tax breaks as going to some corporate conglomerate. Its the people whos retirements are stock held in Exxon, GE andGM, bonds, and other financial instruments that make up a persons savings. These are the people who need the tax breaks so they can reinvest and spend. Not some loser who would never get off his bum
All those retirement savings (or at least whatever's left of them) are already tax-sheltered. And the people who were ever able to amass any significant sums in those are the same ones who've been benefitting from Bushie's tax cuts for the rich all along. They're also the group that is least likely to contribute to a strong velocity of money. Let me have that 14-hour a day, six-days a week wife-and-three-kids loser who never gets off his bum, and we'll soon enough have some economic activity going on.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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"No one bill, no matter how comprehensive, can cure what ails our economy," Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address.

Hes also now saying that it will take years to recover, not months.

What happened to his campaign promises of fixing the economy?
He never promised to fix it overnight, and if you think any one person could do that, you should have your head examined.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Saganista,

Do you really think QuickieMarts are going to start hiring thousands of people and pay them $50,000 a year for years on end because a bunch of poor people went in one week and bought an extra pack of cigarettes and beer?
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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Giving $600 checks to poor people doesn't magically create thousands of $50,000+ a year jobs with benefits packages.

How can a $600 check help someone from his losing his home?
How can a $600 check help an American family pay all their bills when they lost their job?

So ... what must Obama do to create thousands of $50,000+ a year jobs with benefits packages? (He has no clue. And most liberals don't either. They think jobs like that magically appear out of thin air.)
I'm confused - that was Bush's solution. It is the conservative mantra to fix everything with these tax rebates, even though most economists agree that investments are far wiser than tax breaks at this point.

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Yes, and he said that "he" was up to the task for fixing... I am not judging him now because its way, WAY too early for that... but don't tell people not to judge him "ever".... don't make excuses for not fixing the problems because he "did" claim to be a good person to do that very job... If he couldn't do it then he should of stepped aside for someone who says they can... don't make excuses early on about failures later on, that says a lot about a person.... nobody hires a person like that...
Ummm.... again... Obama said he was the best to lead us in fixing it. He NEVER said he could singlehandedly fix these problems. No one person can fix problems in the U.S. It was set up as a representative government, not a dictatorship.

Two weeks in and you want the heavens to open up and all the problems to be solved. You're just angry at something and projecting.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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Answer the question.

Why did Obama put Al Queda's "legal rights" over the needs of the American family?
if you can tell us how one thing has anything to do with the other, maybe someone will answer you.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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Giving $600 checks to poor people doesn't magically create thousands of $50,000+ a year jobs with benefits packages.

How can a $600 check help someone from his losing his home?
How can a $600 check help an American family pay all their bills when they lost their job?

So ... what must Obama do to create thousands of $50,000+ a year jobs with benefits packages? (He has no clue. And most liberals don't either. They think jobs like that magically appear out of thin air.)
so, did handing the corporations money in the form of tax breaks create a lot of jobs?
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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If Obama admitted he doesn't know how the stock market works.

And the market has taken a beating since his election.

And he made his living suing people.

And he thinks 3.9 million jobs digging ditches and laying concrete at $15 an hour for 2 years ONLY is going to fix the economy then the American family is screwed.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:31 PM
 
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An American Family loses their $50,000 a year IT job. (Their home, their car, their kid's college, etc. is now in jeapardy.)

Obama's solution is to give that person a shovel and to spend 2 years at $15 an hour. How does this save the American family?
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