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Old 02-08-2009, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Originally Posted by MovingForward View Post
The so-called "special interests" that the Republicans are against are social service interests--like education. Hardly "pork." Throw in a few more perverse subsidies for the energy companies, and those bought-off, ass-kissing Republicans would sign it in a minute.
here ya go, here are the "education" spending in the bill, maybe you can use it to read the bill itself. Or here I will list the stuff being spent.

do you REALLY really think the majority of this needs to be spent?

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300 million for grants to combat violence against women
$2 billion for federal child-care block grants
$6 billion for university building projects
$15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to the age of 24
$1 billion for community-development block grants
$4.2 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
$650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations
$15 billion for business-loss carry-backs
$145 billion for “Making Work Pay” tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150 million for the Smithsonian
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers
$88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450 million for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
$600 million for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
$1 billion for the Census Bureau
$89 billion for Medicaid
$30 billion for COBRA insurance extension
$36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
4.5 billion for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850 million for Amtrak
$87 million for a polar icebreaking ship
$1.7 billion for the National Park System
$55 million for Historic Preservation Fund
$7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programs”
$150 million for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
$2 billion for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2 billion for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
$6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3.5 billion for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3.4 billion for the State Energy Program
$200 million for state and local electric-transport projects
$300 million for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1.5 billion for green-technology loan guarantees
$8 billion for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4.5 billion for electricity grid
$79 billion for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:58 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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The original poster can't even keep on topic in their own thread.

Back to facts loos like they are on the winning side with this one.

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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 37% favor the legislation, 43% are opposed, and 20% are not sure.
Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Site. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/economic_stimulus_package/support_for_stimulus_package_falls_to_37 - broken link)

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Two weeks ago, 45% supported the plan. Last week (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/public_support_for_economic_recovery_plan_slips_to _42 - broken link), 42% supported it.
Opposition has grown from 34% two weeks ago to 39% last week and 43% today.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:13 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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The original poster can't even keep on topic in their own thread.

Back to facts loos like they are on the winning side with this one.

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Site. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/economic_stimulus_package/support_for_stimulus_package_falls_to_37 - broken link)
Your link is from 2/2- 2/3 mine is from 2/5.
Gallup also breaks it down int the 3 voting groups.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:17 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Originally Posted by Noahma View Post
here ya go, here are the "education" spending in the bill, maybe you can use it to read the bill itself. Or here I will list the stuff being spent.

do you REALLY really think the majority of this needs to be spent?

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300 million for grants to combat violence against women
$2 billion for federal child-care block grants
$6 billion for university building projects
$15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to the age of 24
$1 billion for community-development block grants
$4.2 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
$650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations
$15 billion for business-loss carry-backs
$145 billion for “Making Work Pay” tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150 million for the Smithsonian
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers
$88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450 million for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
$600 million for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
$1 billion for the Census Bureau
$89 billion for Medicaid
$30 billion for COBRA insurance extension
$36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
4.5 billion for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850 million for Amtrak
$87 million for a polar icebreaking ship
$1.7 billion for the National Park System
$55 million for Historic Preservation Fund
$7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programs”
$150 million for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
$2 billion for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2 billion for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
$6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3.5 billion for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3.4 billion for the State Energy Program
$200 million for state and local electric-transport projects
$300 million for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1.5 billion for green-technology loan guarantees
$8 billion for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4.5 billion for electricity grid
$79 billion for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund
Yes and more. We need to inject well over 1 trillion into our economy in all areas to boost it now. Otherwise it will end up costing more.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:21 AM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Your link is from 2/2- 2/3 mine is from 2/5.
Gallup also breaks it down int the 3 voting groups.
Yuo missed it entirely din't you?

Gallup has never showed the bill in an unfavorable light wile Rasmussen has.

They are just polls.

Which one should we believe? Mine or yours?
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:29 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Yuo missed it entirely din't you?

Gallup has never showed the bill in an unfavorable light wile Rasmussen has.

They are just polls.

Which one should we believe? Mine or yours?
I think in the end it doesn't matter, but the fact that one poll shows what different voting blocks think is very telling because the right wing is always the loudest and easiest to hear. I'm glad the independants are giving Obama benefit of the doubt.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:19 AM
 
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Repugs are bound to lose more seats in 2010. There ideologies are so bizarre and dated at best.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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I think in the end it doesn't matter, but the fact that one poll shows what different voting blocks think is very telling because the right wing is always the loudest and easiest to hear. I'm glad the independants are giving Obama benefit of the doubt.
We shall see. Clearly Obama knows the package is not as popular as he would like because he is right now getting off a plane in South Bend so gather more support for it.

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Repugs are bound to lose more seats in 2010. There ideologies are so bizarre and dated at best.
I'm glad we have debates with intelligent people in this forum.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Repugs are bound to lose more seats in 2010. There ideologies are so bizarre and dated at best.
its dated to not want to spend ourselves into oblivion? Its dated to protect our country, and protect our constitution? wow I must be dated then
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