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Old 02-11-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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In New Ads, Liberal Groups Target GOP Over Stimulus - Political Hotsheet
In New Ads, Liberal Groups Target GOP Over Stimulus
The labor-supported organization Americans United for Change and the AFSCME (American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees) union this morning began running a national television advertisement attacking Republican leaders for their opposition to the stimulus bill.


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Old 02-11-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I'm not so sure that the Republicans want the economy to collapse. I think that what the Republicans want is to have their way, minus opposition. Give them that, and they're perfectly happy whether the economy is doing well or not.
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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In New Ads, Liberal Groups Target GOP Over Stimulus - Political Hotsheet
In New Ads, Liberal Groups Target GOP Over Stimulus
The labor-supported organization Americans United for Change and the AFSCME (American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees) union this morning began running a national television advertisement attacking Republican leaders for their opposition to the stimulus bill.


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That's exactly what they need to do. They need to target all the GOP guys up for reelection next year and make sure the voting public knows EXACTLY how obstructionist their member of Congress is being. That way anyone who suffers from the recession will know their Congressman is a do nothing to help them and that he doesn't care about their well being.

70% of American's support Obama's stimulus plan and all Republicans have done is attempt to obstruct it and water it down to make it less effective. Let's make sure the public knows those facts and then see what they think of their member of Congress come next year.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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theres more to it than that buddy you can keep fantisizng about anks giving loans to low income people, not only low income people default or hve defaulted, also do you care to explain between the lines how people ar no longer able to pay for loans they were qualified for, ever heard of predatory loan practices.skyrocketing interest rates.

republicans do nothing but blame the poor, and dont have the brains to realize they spend spend spend themselves
I'm not your "buddy", I'm not fantasizing, you are, and you don't know what you're talking about. Wise up and learn the facts.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:43 PM
 
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Oh? Well you don't mind giving as a name or a post where someone said in effect " its ALL cause of the democrats if the stimulus bill saves the economy" would you???
I couldn't recall a post like that.

But I wanted to add that republicans are likely to claim credit if the stimulus does its job well - its the tax cuts they added that will deserve the credit! And it clearly is a victory that the spending on education was reduced - dodged a bullet there.

In fact, I cannot imagine an outcome where the republicans of congress will not be claiming credit/victory. Isn't that what they get paid to do (spin)?
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:01 AM
 
Location: east coast
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Default why are the dems crying?

I don't think the people in DC have read this bill. How can it stimulate the economy when It gives over $450 million to A.C.O.R.N. What about socialize health care? What does that have to do with foreclosures Looks like Obama is paying his people back with America's money. This is one of the worst White House staffs yet. Hell we wouldn't need the bill if the dems would pay THEIR TAXES.

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Wrong. DEMOCRATS created this. Ever hear of the CRA? That's the Carter administration act (Community Reinvestment Act) that forced banks to make low interest loans in poor neighborhoods to people who didn't qualify. This mess is the Democrats, and nobody elses. Do some research. Learn. You have no clue what you are talking about.



Are you saying that you think all this spending is going to help things?

Republicans should be obstructionists, for a change (it's usually the Democrat game). They should also have been obstructionists the last 8 years. Real Republicans did not like the massive spending of the Bush Administration, but this! This is 100 times worse, and it isn't a "stimulus" at all.

I called both my Senators and told them to vote against it.

By-the-way, your title is a lie ("Republicans want the economy to collapse"). If we did, we would be all for this so-called "stimulus".

Now, why don't you go do some homework and find out what's in this PORK SPENDING BILL before you post some asinine message like this.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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All this noise from republicans about size of the package and the amount of jobs it would create (or not create) is purely smoke screen, designed to hide their stupidity while they hope to politically (and financially) gain from it. Anybody here remembers a $726 billion tax cut stimulus plan that most republicans and Bush wanted in 2003? And it was supposed to create 1.4 million jobs over ten years. Apparently, $726 billion was chump change back then, now that they complain about a much more comprehensive package, in a time of a deep recession, as being overly expensive.

To top it off, wasn't there an alternate proposal (Tax Cut Stimulus) from republicans that was supposed to cost about $450B while "promising" 6.2 million jobs this time around? Put that all together, and GOPers start to look like chimps.

Wait... chimps actually learn from mistakes.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:12 AM
 
Location: east coast
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Default facts or not facts

If the last stimulus pkg didn't work what makes you so sure this will? All this is, is the libs & dems way of rushing thru alot of B.S. forget about the pork it's more bull. Did you know most of it is not going into effect for two more years.(hummmm election time).So what the hurry?


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That's exactly what they need to do. They need to target all the GOP guys up for reelection next year and make sure the voting public knows EXACTLY how obstructionist their member of Congress is being. That way anyone who suffers from the recession will know their Congressman is a do nothing to help them and that he doesn't care about their well being.

70% of American's support Obama's stimulus plan and all Republicans have done is attempt to obstruct it and water it down to make it less effective. Let's make sure the public knows those facts and then see what they think of their member of Congress come next year.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:14 AM
 
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Just throwing it out there but maybe the U.S. needs to hit "rock bottom" before she can pick herself back up. We are a nation addicted to consumerism and oil.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:15 AM
 
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I just heard Barney Frank released a statement indicating that its not the size of the stimulus package, but the amount of stimulation in the package that is important...not sure what that was supposed to mean.
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