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In just two weeks your hero has aligned a better go squad of cheats and speculative crooks than any administration in recent history. We shall see about your innocence. Bluefly don't bother me
Well, you're blinded by your partisan rage. President Obama must fail in your mind in order for you to be validated.
He made some mistakes and corrected them, just like he said he would do during his campaign. That's a leader, not a hero. It's been a while since we've had one of those.
I wouldn't try to compare the depth of criminal and unconstitutional behavior of the last 8 years to what is happening now. There is a legitimate case for murder and life sentences for various other crimes.
Obama's not there yet. Just trying to find some un-crooked politicians. That's tough to do in either party.
Well, you're blinded by your partisan rage. President Obama must fail in your mind in order for you to be validated.
He made some mistakes and corrected them, just like he said he would do during his campaign. That's a leader, not a hero. It's been a while since we've had one of those.
I wouldn't try to compare the depth of criminal and unconstitutional behavior of the last 8 years to what is happening now. There is a legitimate case for murder and life sentences for various other crimes.
Obama's not there yet. Just trying to find some un-crooked politicians. That's tough to do in either party.
By your same logic (assuming you are trying to vaguely refer to Iraq) Obama should be on trial for murder for the killings he gave way to in Pakistan.
By your same logic (assuming you are trying to vaguely refer to Iraq) Obama should be on trial for murder for the killings he gave way to in Pakistan.
Are you suggesting that our military presence in Afghanistan/Pakistan is illegitimate? Where were you when the repubs were counting "patriots" among us?
Afghanistan is not Pakistan. Pakistan is a sovereign nation that hasn't be pushing away arms inspectors. Sending missiles into Pakistan is no different than Iraq. In fact stick Clinton in there with that crowd for lobbing bombs into Afghanistan while they were still sovereign and no real threat was present (according to dems now but not back then)
Afghanistan is not Pakistan. Pakistan is a sovereign nation that hasn't be pushing away arms inspectors.
Long live Nixon, who stood for Pakistan and against India when logic would have dictated otherwise... a price we're paying today. Your dear Reagan took it only a few steps farther, glorifying post-war Afghan freedom fighters (as CIA called it "Al Qaeda"), even as they started with their own agenda, training and terrorizing the region turning a blind ey, and that region was not limited to Afghanistan (you don't seem to know that).
America has, since, flooded Pakistan with billions of tax dollars towards this cause. I can only assume that you know about this, much less talk about it. As for inspectors, you're right. I am not aware of them turning any away. They just haven't allowed it, despite of millions that we pay them to maintain and secure the nuclear sites. If you know otherwise, feel free to educate me on the subject.
But the bottom line is, Pakistan is actually far more dangerous and involved than is Afghanistan. Didn't you support our military in that region before Obama inherited Bush's mess?
Long live Nixon, who stood for Pakistan and against India when logic would have dictated otherwise... a price we're paying today. Your dear Reagan took it only a few steps farther, glorifying post-war Afghan freedom fighters (as CIA called it "Al Qaeda"), even as they started with their own agenda, training and terrorizing the region turning a blind ey, and that region was not limited to Afghanistan (you don't seem to know that).
They called it the Mujaheddin. Which was eventually taken over by the more radical lunatics of the group after the Iran Contra affair. Reagans goal was two things and they were very simple. No nuclear war and to see the Soviet Union collapse. The first bomb that got lobbed would have ended in nuclear winter inwhich you would be lucky to find a human after that that didn't resemeble the "hills have eyes". The Iran contra and the drugs were little battles in the largest most costly longest war in history... All that stuff would be so incredibly unimportant with no humans on earth.
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America has, since, flooded Pakistan with billions of tax dollars towards this cause. I can only assume that you know about this, much less talk about it. As for inspectors, you're right. I am not aware of them turning any away. They just haven't allowed it, despite of millions that we pay them to maintain and secure the nuclear sites. If you know otherwise, feel free to educate me on the subject.
Pakistan should be next? I'm not sure where you are trying to go with this. If you belive Iraq was wrong why are you trying to argue that pakistan should be any different?..if you are. Maybe I'm getting confused.
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But the bottom line is, Pakistan is actually far more dangerous and involved than is Afghanistan. Didn't you support our military in that region before Obama inherited Bush's mess?
I support both of them in their/our mess. War is never pretty. I proclaim myself as a neocon which most folks cringe at because they thin Bush was a neocon. Bush was actually a neoliberal IMO.. More responsible for a push towards socialism than anyone I can think of besides Hoover/FDR. I'm one of those silly people that actually believe freedom does spread.... like the plague.
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Well, you're blinded by your partisan rage. President Obama must fail in your mind in order for you to be validated.
He made some mistakes and corrected them, just like he said he would do during his campaign. That's a leader, not a hero. It's been a while since we've had one of those.
I wouldn't try to compare the depth of criminal and unconstitutional behavior of the last 8 years to what is happening now. There is a legitimate case for murder and life sentences for various other crimes.
Obama's not there yet. Just trying to find some un-crooked politicians. That's tough to do in either party.
How wrong you are my friend. Did you happen to catch the quip of the lady at the crowd in Fort Meyers today. She was waiting patiently and finally he asked her what she wanted to say because she had waited so patiently and when she spoke she went into this pleading tyrate about wanting a new kitchen and a car and a bathroom. Instantly it reminded me of the Biblical account of Jesus as he walked down the road and a crowd gathered and the blind man Bartamus called out over and over pleading that he restore his sight. The biblical account states that because he had such great faith he restored his sight and Bartamus followed him everywhere.
I got news for you friend, the lady we heard today places her faith in the wrong messiah. She ain't even gonna get a refrigerator or even a toilet bowl.
The only unconstitutional behavior of the past eight years is that conjured up in your fantasy world and the fantasy world of the Obamanites. All you ae going to see is the great fleecing of America and the pay back will be hell. Are you by any chance military age?
LOL, I see you're still mad about me calling you out in that one post awhile ago.
Just like when I took you over to the Alaska forum and you made such a scene. I can't take you anywhere without your embarrassing me.
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