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This is not true. Exonerations based on DNA evidence are increasing at a rate that ought to make anyone who cares about justice queasy.
Most DNA exonerations are for rape, not murder. They are quite rare in any case, they are just hyped up to the stratosphere by the media when they occur..
And most of the "exonerations" aren't because a totally innocent person was convicted, more often it's because so and so was an accomplice to the murder instead of the actual shooter.... it's still murder.
Most overturned sentences aren't form "exoneration", far more often it's a legal techincality......
Example:
Troy Victorino is asking for his death sentence to be overturned because he was tried at the same time as his codefendants, therefore his trial was "unfair".... sounds like a technicality to me...
Doesn't change the fact that he murdered 6 people in a violent killing spree over an XBOX...
Most DNA exonerations are for rape, not murder. They are quite rare in any case, they are just hyped up to the stratosphere by the media when they occur..
And most of the "exonerations" aren't because a totally innocent person was convicted, more often it's because so and so was an accomplice to the murder instead of the actual shooter.... it's still murder.
Most overturned sentences aren't form "exoneration", far more often it's a legal techincality......
Example:
Troy Victorino is asking for his death sentence to be overturned because he was tried at the same time as his codefendants, therefore his trial was "unfair".... sounds like a technicality to me...
Doesn't change the fact that he murdered 6 people in a violent killing spree over an XBOX...
First, you pretend that we're only talking about murder, when the entire thread has been about crime in general. Nice try.
Then you explain that sentences are overturned without exoneration, when I never claimed anything different. Friends of mine work for the Innocence Project. I understand the difference. One example of a non-exoneration does not change the fact of exonerations ... there have been hundreds of exonerations based on DNA, including 17 from death row. In addition, over 100 people have been exonerated while on death row for a variety of reasons. I'm talking about post-conviction exoneration here, not overturning a sentence for procedural reasons, nor introducing DNA evidence at trial.
I'm talking about proof that people who were found guilty - and in many cases sentenced to death - were NOT guilty.
One thing could be done to reduce the prison population. Decriminalize marijuana and other drug use. The prison population is full of people with substance abuse problems, and if given the chance, many of them would become viable members of our communities. Take a bit of the money you would have spent housing inmates, and put it into scholarships for substance abuse counselors, buildings for substance abuse programs, and paying counselors.
First, you pretend that we're only talking about murder, when the entire thread has been about crime in general. Nice try.
Then you explain that sentences are overturned without exoneration, when I never claimed anything different. Friends of mine work for the Innocence Project. I understand the difference. One example of a non-exoneration does not change the fact of exonerations ... there have been hundreds of exonerations based on DNA, including 15 from death row. In addition, over 100 people have been exonerated while on death row for a variety of reasons. I'm talking about post-conviction exoneration here, not overturning a sentence for procedural reasons, nor introducing DNA evidence at trial.
I'm talking about proof that people who were found guilty - and in many cases sentenced to death - were NOT guilty.
I thought we were talking about the death penalty.... therefore murder is the only way to end up on death row....thanks to SCOTUS trampling state's rights...
Then we should make the system more efficient... I'm not willing to abolish the entire system because of a couple of mistakes.... and with all the appeals and reviews the inmates get it is next to impossible to slip through the cracks....
One thing could be done to reduce the prison population. Decriminalize marijuana and other drug use. The prison population is full of people with substance abuse problems, and if given the chance, many of them would become viable members of our communities. Take a bit of the money you would have spent housing inmates, and put it into scholarships for substance abuse counselors, buildings for substance abuse programs, and paying counselors.
Not gonna be too effective in CA. I doubt a large amount of their prison population is there for pot anyways, CA is already one of the most lenient states...... ticket or the county slammer at most..
Alright, good point about murder. I confused myself as the argument gradually evolved.
It's one thing to improve the system - if it can be improved - it's another to get on the internet claiming that the system works as it is and any evidence to the contrary is a liberal hoax.
Not gonna be too effective in CA. I doubt a large amount of their prison population is there for pot anyways, CA is already one of the most lenient states...... ticket or the county slammer at most..
Three strikes contributes a lot.
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and spends half a year halting executions for no reason..
, we wouldn't be bickering about the "unreliability" of it...
