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The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.
But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doingwhat the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”
If they get rid of the old people (Baby Boomers) by selectively denying medical care treatments due to the government's selective choosing of what that patient deserves, then they won't collect benefits from social security.
As I understand it in Canada you have to wait 3 to 6 months to get an MRI and if you miss your appointment then tough luck.
Other countries with health care programs such as what Obama is proposing literally force old people to have to go without medical treatment even if they're suffering cancer.
“The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit.Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis”
Stupid. If anyone wants to know what's really going on, google comparative effectiveness. You're not going the get any facts from addled right-wingers...
Medicare costs have exploded, there needs to be some cost containment. Additionally, a number of practicioners are gaming the system.
Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the government just writing large checks out and not monitoring the usage as we know this leads to waste and fraud.
Your attempts to portray this as some sort of Logan's Run scenario concern me that you are easily agitated and scared. Calm down, deep breaths and consider that basically you are asking people to pay for something without seeing if it's warranted because heck...it doesn't cost YOU anything. lol.
Now go hide under your bed, I hear Obama is letting 80% of the prisoners out of jail next week.
"Daschle says health-care reform 'will not be pain free.' Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt."
Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost-effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them
The fact is, there is NO perfect medical system - not here in the US, not in Europe, not in Japan, not anywhere - and it's VERY easy to make an argument against this or that particular system by simply cherry-picking the data for examples that back up your case (whatever that case may be). Certainly there are people in Europe and Canada who wait a long time for their scheduled treatments - but there are also PLENTY of people here in the US that can't get the treatment AT ALL because they have no (or insufficient) health insurance - and lots and lots of other people who have found themselves bankrupted by sky high medical bills (even WITH employer provided health care). The shortcomings with medical coverage that is tied to your job is that if you lose your job you also loose your coverage (COBRA can help for a while, but even that is pretty expensive - especially if you don't have a job). As the recessions deepens and more and more people find themselves without employer supplied health care, more and more people will find out first hand the pitfalls of a system that depends on employer-paid health care.
Heck, as it is, rising health care costs are forcing more and more employers to try and dump that benefit - so if you STILL have employer-provided health care you should consider yourself lucky - and keep in mind that it's probably only a matter of time before your employer dumps that benefit.
Folks, it's in plain English, they will ration out your medical care. You may be denied medical treatment.
Don't be fooled by the Obama worshippers, they'll defend that man even if he went on national TV to tell the country he wants to destroy the middle class.
You better melt the phone lines and call Washington now!
Anyone who defends Obama's belief that "It's the duty of an older person to suffer" is brainwashed and flat out evil. It's right there in the bill - read it!
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