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What if a "better" public school district is too far away to reasonably commute to and there's a nearby private school that will serve the children's educational needs?
You show some initiative and get a second job and work hard and pay the tuition at the local private school. But under no circumstance should you depend on the government to educate your kids.
(Wow! This talking like a condescending, patronizing, conservative feels pretty good.)
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You show some initiative and get a second job and work hard and pay the tuition at the local private school. But under no circumstance should you depend on the government to educate your kids.
(Wow! This talking like a condescending, patronizing, conservative feels pretty good.)
Since MY taxdollars are going towards FUNDING public education, I have EVERY RIGHT to expect the public school system to do its job of educating MY CHILD! If not, then give me some of MY money back to help me pay for a private school for my child! Why do I have to pay MY share of the public school educational costs via my taxdollars AND pay for a private school just so my kids can have a quality education? How fair is that?
By the way, you are sounding like a patronizing liberal actually. All this talk about liberals being more compassionate towards the poor and needy is bunk when it comes to the education of our inner city children. You would rather maintain the status quo of our ineffective public school ureaucracy and protect union interests versus giving parents REAL options in the education their children. You mentioned about not wanting public tax dollars to go towards unaccountable private schools (even though their success rates have been documented) but would rather it go towards our unaccountable bureaucrats who run our public school system? Don't give me any garbage about our public schools being accountable as the teacher unions constantly fight against this! You liberals are such hypocrits!
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You show some initiative and get a second job and work hard and pay the tuition at the local private school. But under no circumstance should you depend on the government to educate your kids.
(Wow! This talking like a condescending, patronizing, conservative feels pretty good.)
If we can't depend on government to educate our kids, then WHY should we be paying for public education? If the purpose of public education is NOT to educate our kids, then it needs to be abolished!
But under no circumstance should you depend on the government to educate your kids.
Um... yeah. This is exactly why many advocate giving families and their kids school choice, public or private. Too many parents CAN'T depend on the government to educate their kids, because the public schools AREN'T educating them. Did you miss the part in the WSJ article about the U.S. having HALF the percentage of top-scoring students and a much larger percentage of low-scoring students than other OECD-member countries?
Since MY taxdollars are going towards FUNDING public education, I have EVERY RIGHT to expect the public school system to do its job of educating MY CHILD! If not, then give me some of MY money back to help me pay for a private school for my child! Why do I have to pay MY share of the public school educational costs via my taxdollars AND pay for a private school just so my kids can have a quality education? How fair is that?
By the way, you are sounding like a patronizing liberal actually. All this talk about liberals being more compassionate towards the poor and needy is bunk when it comes to the education of our inner city children. You would rather maintain the status quo of our ineffective public school ureaucracy and protect union interests versus giving parents REAL options in the education their children. You mentioned about not wanting public tax dollars to go towards unaccountable private schools (even though their success rates have been documented) but would rather it go towards our unaccountable bureaucrats who run our public school system? Don't give me any garbage about our public schools being accountable as the teacher unions constantly fight against this! You liberals are such hypocrits!
If you want private school for your children--assuming you even have school-aged children, and aren't just here arguing for sport--and you can't afford it, then I have two words for you:
If you want private school for your children--assuming you even have school-aged children, and aren't just here arguing for sport--and you can't afford it, then I have two words for you:
Student Loan.
Why should someone have to take out a loan to get something better than a second rate babysitter?
Public schools are nowhere near as good as they were years ago and so school vouchers should be allowed for those who wish to go elsewhere and the good teachers would follow leaving the second rate to fail.
Why are public schools and the unions so afraid of vouchers? Could it be that unless they rose to the competition they'd be out of jobs? And here I thought libs were all about choice...
I think if we're paying for the service it should fit what we want or we should be free to look elsewhere and put our $$$ there.
If we can't depend on government to educate our kids, then WHY should we be paying for public education? If the purpose of public education is NOT to educate our kids, then it needs to be abolished!
This sounds like the opposite of what you've said elsewhere about government.
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For people who don't work for the government, taxes hurts them in the pocketbooks. Our government has a tendency to run programs inefficiently without much oversight. They are notorious for mismanaging our taxdollars and always fail to deliver what they promise. I brought in less than 45,000 last year but will have to shell out 2,000 in taxes before the April 15th deadline so I'm less than thrilled with government bureaucracy at this moment. : smack:
Yet now you seem want government's involvement in both public AND private schooling.
this whole debate has turned into arguing "for sport" that is why I refuse to keep commenting back to everyone who has made comments on my posts...
Its just not worth it... and it's not about children... it's about political/social views..."the kids" are just being used as pawns in everyone's arguments
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If you want private school for your children--assuming you even have school-aged children, and aren't just here arguing for sport--and you can't afford it, then I have two words for you:
Student Loan.
Why should I take out a student loan on top of the taxes I pay into the public education system? If I'm paying for a service, I have every right to expect quality service. Why should parents have to pay into both public education via taxdollars and private schooling just to get a quality education for their child? The public schools will not provide it so yeah, I want some of my tax dollars back to help me fund my child's education.
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This sounds like the opposite of what you've said elsewhere about government.
Yet now you seem want government's involvement in both public AND private schooling.
No ... I just want government to do its job which is to deliver a quality education for my tax dollars. If the public schools are not delivering it, then give me some of my tax dollars back and I'll pay for my child's education myself. It makes NO sense to pay tax dollars for a government service but not receive it! Since I'm mandated by law to pay for school taxes, then let me decide where my child's taxes go.
Question: Why are YOU so against freeing low income children from underperforming public schools? Do you work for the public school system or union? Why are YOU so opposed to giving children the opportunity to have a better education than what's being offered in the public schools?
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