Legalize marijuana? (moved from NYC forum) (lawyers, states, doctor, alcohol)

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by Miles

Aint it funny how life is.....those like me who do not fall into your categorization above are the "weirdos"; and the potheads mumbling incoherently, damaging themselves physically, emotionally, becoming a drain on their families and society in lost man-hours and wasted dreams - these and their sympathizers are the sane majority!! Wow, what a conclusion.

Hopefully your theory is inaccurate.

Miles, I never meant to imply,nor do I feel that anyone who doesn't agree with me on something is a "weirdo." I don't know how you took what I said to imply that and I am sorry that is how you interpreted it.

[Kereczr]

Originally Posted by Riv

No, that junk destroys brain cells and reduces reaction time so it's both dangerous to the mind and dangerous while driving or even crossing a street.

Wrong

[Kereczr]

Originally Posted by Miles

disagree.

wrong

[Kereczr]

Originally Posted by Miles

Good Day NooYowkur, my fellow poster. The reason I'v been mono-syllabic on this thread so far isn't because I'm listening to one of my favorite artistes, Rita Marley, sing her enchanting "One Draw," or because I'm hanging listlessly in Central Park, mumbling to myself, indolently waiting for the reefer man to show up and make my day.

Nah, it's because the OP used to be a good friend of mine and I still like her. Plus so many of my colleagues like you and justfarr are advocating something that I don't feel, however well-intentioned you are, will solve the problem of reefer use.

Sure, weed isn't as bad as crack or LSD, but it has ben proven to damage brain cells, create inertia, listlessness, affect one's attention span and focus, make one less productive in society.....and worse yet, can eventually lead to heavier drug use. We need to be telling our kids to stay away from these harmful drugs not that we should legalize them.

By extension of the logic presented on the board today, if we decriminalize drunk driving the problem of road fatalities, broken limbs, devastated homes, destroyed lives will be solved. Yeah, we can't stop something by laws against it....so what do we do? We make the abhorrent act legal, and bingo, problem is solved....it goes up in a puff of smoke - pardon the pun.

How can we prove that DUI laws don't help anyone because DUI crimes still continue? How can we prove that marijuana/other drug laws don't help anyone because the problem still persists? I don't know how to prove a negative but my common sense tells me that a whole lot of people out there are thankful for laws to protect them against the demoralization caused by drugs and the lost lives and promising futures derailed - whether via drunk driving or illicit drug use.

No sources for any of that eh?

[Kereczr]

Originally Posted by Riv

Is it a menace to society if a stoned driver isn't able to hit the brakes fast enough?

source? proof?

Originally Posted by Riv

Well the point is that you can't have that cannibis in your system and then get behind the wheel of a car. The stuff stays in your system for several days and slows your reflexes up.

this shows you know nothing about marijuana.

Originally Posted by DAS

If it is legalized you may see people outside blowing it in your face. Imagine the teens, and the adults out in the park at lunch time, inhaling away. The subway ride after work with teens getting out from school will be even more fun. I can't wait.

Ever heard of laws against public intoxication?

Originally Posted by ontheGtrain

Legalizing it would be a terrible idea. Alcohol is legal and how many people get killed by drunk drivers everyday in this country?? Even more people would be killed by those under the influence of this drug. People who want it legalized are regular smokers or people who have not thought things through.
Alcohol is legal and has been for decades. Has the consumption dropped? No, it has not. But people all over this country will be killed by drunk drivers this weekend. That is a fact. If you add pot you will have more murders on the highway. Legalizing it will increase availability and usage. It is a horrible idea.

Sources? Proof?

Originally Posted by WIZENC

That's why people are scared to legalized weed because they think it will have a domino effect on other drugs. It will be stupid to legalize all drugs just for the simple fact of you thinking you might save money on enforcement. Also you can OD on all the other drugs except weed. Last time I checked you can't OD off of alcohol and cigarettes.

You're dead wrong.

Originally Posted by Miles

I wonder if we decriminalize rape whether rapes will decrease? How about if we kill any kind of prohibition that creates a blackmarket, maybe that will be the way to go, no? Yeah, let's no longer have laws against anything that creates a blackmarket, let's allow everyone to walk around and do anything they wish as all the laws against anything society collectively deems harmful don't seem to stop the proscribed acts.

[cruxan]

Originally Posted by yankee1bajan2

I dont think ALL drugs should be legal. I do not believe in the use of drugs but I have worked in the court house and have seen so many man hours wasted on cases regarding "weed". We got bigger issues I guess. But my man is an ex weed smoker and good God sometimes he just dumbs out.

god created weed it's pure and natural strait from the bush to the pipe ....the world would be a lot beter off if people did not drink alcohol and only smoked weed... damn it's a win win solution.. just legallize it and stop this ridiculous loosing war against gods burning bush.... look at bob marly he smoked weed and he was one of the most ceative musicians that ever lived... he preached love and happiness to the masses and was a true legend to be remembered

[NooYowkur81]

YouTube - Peter Tosh - Legalize it live

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by KRS88

Legalizing marijuana will be great for the economy i mean its already thew largest cash crop in California and its ILLEGAL imagine the money if it was LEGAL......Bottom Line legalize weed a majority of the people who smoke it are responsible americans just looking to relax

Responsible people don't use that junk in the first place.

Better to "relax" by doing something healthy, like going for a bike ride, or joining in a basketball game or volleyball.

[DITC]

Legalize it and tax everyone who sells it. This could fund our stimulus plan. The money will flow smoothly to hard working Americans from all the lazy thugs on welfare who drive Range Rovers and Escalades while living in subsidized housing. Save further money by reducing the money spent on the war on drugs.

Time to bring back the middle class. Get the barbecue grills out and block party like its 1992.

Ron Paul 2012

[majoun]

Originally Posted by malamute

Legalize methamphetamine and make sure the drug addicts have an unlimited supply of it. That will solve many societal problems.

I don't think it's a good idea to legalize methamphetamine (or crack) as the effects of the drug cause damage, not just its illegality. I'd support legalizing heroin before I'd support legalizing meth just because junkies who can regularly get their fix are docile (as opposed to when they can't) whereas the effects of meth itself generate violence and would even if it was legal. One can't compare meth to weed - any problems caused by marijuana are exclusively caused by its illegality. However when pharmaceutical methamphetamine was legal by prescription in the 1950s and most of the 1960s (before LBJ introduced the earliest stages of what would become the War on Drugs) and when doctors freely wrote those prescriptions (e.g. the Beatles' song "Dr. Robert" is a paean to one such doctor) there certainly were fewer problems. Having observed the effects of meth, though, and continuing to observe its effects, I'd be wary of legalizing it (or any other hard upper drug). OTOH purely punitive based solutions don't work.