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Old 02-15-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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Thats not even the worse, Obama is in the pokcet of the H1B lobbies also, so, kiss the IT jobs, construction and anything else that hasnt been outsourced or taken over by illegally imported foreigners

goodbye.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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Wrong, its called slave labor.


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when New Orleans was rebuilt did you see long lines of black & white at the hiring post for those construction jobs? i dont think so. everybody was mexican, its called work ethic.
guna happen again.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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Obama and the democrats don't want e-verify.
They want to make the illegals U.S. citizens because it's more votes.
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Thats not even the worse, Obama is in the pokcet of the H1B lobbies also, so, kiss the IT jobs, construction and anything else that hasnt been outsourced or taken over by illegally imported foreigners

goodbye.
In the final version of the stimulus bill, Senate and House negotiators agreed to stricter limits on banks and other firms that take taxpayer bailouts that use the H-1B visa program.

The proposal by Senators Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) was added to the economic recovery package in the Senate on Feb. 6. A conference committee retained the provision in the version of the bill that is expected to win final congressional approval in the coming days. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the American Immigration Lawyers Association had lobbied against inclusion of the provision.
Stimulus: Tighter H-1B Controls on Bailed Out Banks - BusinessWeek (http://www.businessweek.com/blogs/money_politics/archives/2009/02/stimulus_tighte.html - broken link)
MA: What is your position on H1B visas in general? Do you believe the number of H1B visas should be increased?

BO: Highly skilled immigrants have contributed significantly to our domestic technology industry. But we have a skills shortage, not a worker shortage. There are plenty of Americans who could be filling tech jobs given the proper training. I am committed to investing in communities and people who have not had an opportunity to work and participate in the Internet economy as anything other than consumers. Most H-1B new arrivals, for example, have earned a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent abroad (42.5%). They are not all PhDs. We can and should produce more Americans with bachelor’s degrees that lead to jobs in technology. A report of the National Science Foundation (NSF) reveals that blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans as a whole comprise more that 25% of the population but earn, as a whole, 16% of the bachelor degrees, 11% of the master’s degrees, and 5% of the doctorate degrees in science and engineering. We can do better than that and go a long way toward meeting industry’s need for skilled workers with Americans. Until we have achieved that, I will support a temporary increase in the H-1B visa program as a stopgap measure until we can reform our immigration system comprehensively. I support comprehensive immigration reform that includes improvement in our visa programs, including our legal permanent resident visa programs and temporary programs including the H-1B program, to attract some of the world’s most talented people to America. We should allow immigrants who earn their degrees in the U.S. to stay, work, and become Americans over time. As part of our comprehensive reform, we should examine our ability to replace a stopgap increase in the number of H1B visas with an increase in the number of permanent visas we issue to foreign skilled workers. I will also work to ensure immigrant workers are less dependent on their employers for their right to stay in the country and would hold accountable employers who abuse the system and their workers.
Barack Obama on H1B and Immigration

Examples of how Obama is in the pocket of the H1B lobby please.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Wrong, its called slave labor.
True.
New Orleans offers a quick study of Bush labor policy in action:
On Aug. 29, Hurricane Katrina strikes, causing widespread destruction. Four days later, President Bush commits $10.1 billion of the taxpayers' money to rebuilding New Orleans. Four days after that, he suspends the Davis-Bacon Act -- the law that requires federal contractors to pay workers the going local rate.

Illegal immigrants, willing to work at less-than-prevailing wages, stream into New Orleans. And a mere six weeks after the last evacuee leaves the Superdome, we hear of complaints by illegal workers that employers are stiffing them of their meager pay.
RealClearPolitics - Commentary - Bush Labor Policy in Action
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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I support comprehensive immigration reform that includes improvement in our visa programs, including our legal permanent resident visa programs and temporary programs including the H-1B program, to attract some of the world’s most talented people to America. We should allow immigrants who earn their degrees in the U.S. to stay, work, and become Americans over time. As part of our comprehensive reform, we should examine our ability to replace a stopgap increase in the number of H1B visas with an increase in the number of permanent visas we issue to foreign skilled workers. I will also work to ensure immigrant workers are less dependent on their employers for their right to stay in the country and would hold accountable employers who abuse the system and their workers.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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It's the Republicans who want the illegals to stay. They're the ones in the pockets of business, remember?
OK if that is what you think, then we will see what happens. Since the dems are dismantling everything the Repubs did or want, then it shouldn't be long until all the illegals are booted out.

Good, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I was under the impression that Pelosi has sanctuary cities in her area because she is catering to the illegals.

Glad to hear they Dems will be kicking them out soon
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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Stop with the Bush whining, we are discussing B Hussein O
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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Obama and his buddy Zo

FAQ: Why Obama may back an H-1B increase even in a recession
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:06 AM
 
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Ugh, sometimes you people miss the forest for the trees. Neither Republicans nor Democrats want E-Verify. Both parties can blow smoke up our butts about how much damage illegal immigrants are causing and how much they want to have a better system or just flat out throw them back into Mexico but in reality they are sabotaging their own efforts. The Congressmen themselves and many of their more powerful constituents use illegal immigrants for lower labor costs. The funny thing is, Republicans secretly want some illegal immigrants to stay to work in their factories and fields (and trust me, some of their financial backers would be mighty pissed if they lost their right to illegal immigrant labor) but they put up a front about how illegal immigrants are wrecking the economy so they're being hypocrites. On the other hand, I totally disagree with Democrats who think some sort of amnesty should be given. Why don't we just attack the source? Why aren't we putting pressure on Mexico to improve the standards of living and close the income disparity among the 2% of wealthy Mexicans and the rest who live in poverty? We should be overhauling the immigration process while actually enforcing penalties against employers with illegal immigrants. It's easy to blame the Democrats because some of them are straightforward about their reluctance to make stricter rules, but the Republicans are just as bad because they're flat out lying about their motives and actions.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:06 AM
 
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Stop with the Bush whining, we are discussing B Hussein O
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Wrong, its called slave labor.
You brought up Bush: you replied to a post about rebuilding NO after Katrina > Bush was president then > Davis Bacon was suspended by Bush to permit the "slave labor" you mention.
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