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Old 02-15-2009, 11:37 PM
 
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I agree.

I think back to the Clinton years and miss them. I am like "You know..no worries about terrorists...good economy...a president who cared about people.."

I felt safer than ever and truly felt American. After everything Bush was let off for (Killing people, war...etc..etc), I wonder the same.

I love your posts. Just said that in the other thread!
Clinton started the decline. Clinton was just an absolutely valueless person, to this day, I have no idea what that man even stands for, or what he ever did stand for.

He was just a nameless, faceless, valueless, Democrat sax-playing politician who somehow got elected and did nothing important for 8 years. PS the dotcom boom/bust was not "prosperity".


I don't think even Clinton knew what he stood for, that's why he was always merely self-centered, playing ot the center, and playing for "poll numbers". That's the kind of person we elect these days, as Bush, McCain and Obama are proving to be basically the same mush-heads.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Bush stole elections........lol O boy.....You must be kidding. I think its pretty funny how you Dems think. I mean we have a Pres. who was voted in because hes "so cool" haaa give me a break.
We cant even get the liberal press to say 1 bad thing about him..
This is going to be some 4 yr ride so hold on "God is our President now" ! lol
This post gets my best *sigh*

I thought this thread was going in a promising direction for a minute there.

BTW, yes, it IS the America of my grade school days that I wish we still had. I grew up with it and I didn't turn out half bad. As for the partisan vitriol, I think it's a bit out of place in this thread.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:08 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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It really doesn't help to make a scapegoat out of any president.

I am older now and I remember my mother being very upset when Kennedy became president. I was too young to vote at that time and I now realize most students get a liberal brainwashing and I was no different. Add to that the media thought he was wonderful and told us how wonderful he was just as they are doing with Obama now.

As I said before, the president is not the problem. Greed, selfishness, ignorance, and drug abused brains are a few of the problems. Then we come to schools who have students that do not come to school to learn and keep the other students from learning by disrupting the classes. Too many children are raised by day cares where you have to join together and be part of the group and heaven forbid that you have an indepentent thought. That would lead to punishment.

Then when a mother wants to stay home and be a homemaker she is not allowed to because so much is taken out of her husband's paycheck to pay for all those who have children without getting married and expect the government to take care of them.

The end result is a lot of people who don't know how to think for themselves and follow after the crowd and whatever is popular at the moment. This leads to people like Bush, Jr. and Obama being so popular when they first get elected and then so unpopular when they fail because no one else was minding the store.

What we need are some senators and house members who have the courage to stand up for what is right whether that is what everybody else is saying or not. But you know what happens to them--they lose the election the next time around.

This is a government of the people by the people and for the people and the problems we are facing today are of our own making. We have met the enemy and it is us.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:10 AM
 
Location: southern california
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rough waters ahead for sure. DC put the breaks on the meltdown but its guna happen. maybe 1 year.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:11 AM
 
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I don't know why the previous poster turned it into some partisan rant. The evidence actually is quite overwhelming that both the 2000 and (even moreso but less debated) the 2004 elections were rigged and stolen.

That doesn't matter, though. I'll tell you why you can still recognize your country.

I remember in 2000 sensing that, even with a rigged election, having someone like Bush in control was critical to our nation's growth. I had a sense that Bush was necessary to allow an old consciousness to rise, expose itself, and collapse under its own weight. Kind of like a zit.

I had no idea just how true that sense would be. Without complete control, divisive neocons would have continued to believe their ideas worked. Like the backward and corrupted 1950s giving way to the 1960s, Bush opened the door for a massive cultural advancement in our society in the coming years.

So, in that sense, we should be grateful that our nation can swing so far in one direction and then back in the other. Not many countries can do that peacefully.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:25 PM
 
Location: AL
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Carter,Clinton..and now Obumer...Good lord !

You Dems are so blind !
One day I want to live in your "Wonder world"..Just for a day, then I ll go back to reality.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:00 PM
 
Location: MI
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Well, what can you say, people should have researched Bush before they put the loser in office. Every business he ever touched was a failure, except his baseball team and he bought his stake in that with criminal money. One has to wonder if the Republicons spent as much time and money on keeping an eye on terrorists as they did on Monica,if 9/11 would have happened at all. Now all the neocons can come up with is "he kept us safe" and haha $13 a week. I'll take $13 plus the $60 a week I'm no longer spending on gas prices while Dumbya was in office and consider that a step in the right direction.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:17 PM
 
Location: AL
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Funny thing is..Economy started to tank as soon as Dems took over Senate lol..You have fun with your $13.00.
Dont spend it all in 1 place...
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:25 PM
 
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Carter,Clinton..and now Obumer...Good lord !

You Dems are so blind !
One day I want to live in your "Wonder world"..Just for a day, then I ll go back to reality.
anyone with half a brain knows if Carter Clinton and Obama had been the only leaders the last 25 years, America would not be in the mess we are in, we would be a peaceful happy nation, the problem is the upper 1% wouldnt be raking in the millions and billions they are, and there lies the problem, we can thank Reagan and the Bushs for that
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:27 PM
 
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Personally;I started felling that way during the Vietnam war. That is when i saw a great change in this country. We went from a country that people would sacrifice for their country to one that most want others to sacrifice but not them. They reverse what JFK said;ask not what your country can do for you;but what you can do for your century.Now its what can I get out of my country without doing anything.
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