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Old 02-16-2009, 02:17 PM
 
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Now that we are out of the Bush Dark Ages of Science, we can cure some of the dreaded diseases and handicaps.


Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant - CNN.com
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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Whoa... the wonders of stem cell research.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Now that we are out of the Bush Dark Ages of Science, we can cure some of the dreaded diseases and handicaps.
The stem cells were the adult kind - the kind Bush has always supported and given Federal funds to.

Not the Embryonic kind, which Bush also supported, never passed any laws banning or restricting, but simply never gave Federal funds to.

A number of cures and progress has come from Adult Stem Cell research. No such cures or progress has EVER resulted from Embryonic Stem Cell research, despite millions of dollars of research done on it, past and present.

When will we get out of the Liberal-fanatic Dark Ages of ignorance and people who don't know what they are talking about, but who vote anyway?
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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The stem cells were the adult kind - the kind Bush has always supported and given Federal funds to.

Not the Embryonic kind, which Bush also supported, never passed any laws banning or restricting, but simply never gave Federal funds to.

A number of cures and progress has come from Adult Stem Cell research. No such cures or progress has EVER resulted from Embryonic Stem Cell research, despite millions of dollars of research done on it, past and present.

When will we get out of the Liberal-fanatic Dark Ages of ignorance and people who don't know what they are talking about, but who vote anyway?

There is hope for America! Thanks for posting the truth.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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Why is embryonic stem cell research important?
Research with embryonic stem cells may lead to new, more effective treatments for serious human ailments and alleviate the suffering of thousands of people. Diseases such as juvenile diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, heart failure and spinal cord injuries are examples.

Why do embryonic stem cells hold such promise?
They can develop into any cell type in the body.
They can form unlimited quantities of any cell type in the body.
They will help us understand inherited diseases by allowing us to study human cells bearing the exact genetic defects that cause disease in patients.
They will allow us to discover safer and more effective drugs by making it easier to screen drug candidates.


Some have criticized embryonic stem cell research by arguing that adult stem cells have delivered more treatments, but that observation is misleading. While adult stem cells have been studied for decades, human embryonic stem cells were first isolated in 1998. There has not yet been time to develop new therapies using embryonic stem cells.

The overwhelming majority of stem cell scientists believe that to make the most rapid progress against disease, researchers must use all the weapons in their arsenal. That means using both embryonic and adult stem cells.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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Why is embryonic stem cell research important?
Research with embryonic stem cells may lead to new, more effective treatments for serious human ailments and alleviate the suffering of thousands of people. Diseases such as juvenile diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, heart failure and spinal cord injuries are examples.

Why do embryonic stem cells hold such promise?
They can develop into any cell type in the body.
They can form unlimited quantities of any cell type in the body.
They will help us understand inherited diseases by allowing us to study human cells bearing the exact genetic defects that cause disease in patients.
They will allow us to discover safer and more effective drugs by making it easier to screen drug candidates.


Some have criticized embryonic stem cell research by arguing that adult stem cells have delivered more treatments, but that observation is misleading. While adult stem cells have been studied for decades, human embryonic stem cells were first isolated in 1998. There has not yet been time to develop new therapies using embryonic stem cells.

The overwhelming majority of stem cell scientists believe that to make the most rapid progress against disease, researchers must use all the weapons in their arsenal. That means using both embryonic and adult stem cells.
Thank you for posting this information!!!

Yes - embryonic stem cells hold considerable promise - they can more easily differentiate into other types of cells than adult stem cells can... As the science on working with these cells progress - I believe they will ultmately yield more results than adult stem cells - or make us understand how to make adult stem cells more capable of being used.

Bush killed any progress in this area when he prohibited federal funding - after all - he was 'The Decider' - more like 'The a-hole Decider' to me...

THanks for posting this to counter the limited thinking so characteristic of Dubya and his brain dead supporters above..
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Yes - embryonic stem cells hold considerable promise
And Adult stem cell research holds considerable promise AND has delivered established, beneficial results... unlike embryonic stem cell research.

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Bush killed any progress in this area when he prohibited federal funding
Hey, check it out! Here's one of those strange people who assume that if government doesn't do it, nobody will do it! Completely ignorant, as usual, of the fact that companies have been doing plenty of research into embryonic stem cells for years, including during the GWB administration.

Nothing has come of that research, of course: It has resulted in a flat bust, NO useful results at all, unlike adult stem cell research. They are free to continue, of course, and they are, because you never know when breakthroughs might happen (despite complete failure in embryonic stem cell research so far).

I thought I'd post this to counter the limited thinking so characteristic of government-uber-alles liberals and their brain dead supporters above.

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Old 02-16-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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Thumbs up Stem cell

WE SEEM TO BE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON RESEARCH AND SAVING LIVES. GO OBAMA. IT MAKES ME WONDER IF WE ARE CLOSE TO FINDING A CURE FOR CANCER AND HEPATITIS AS WELL. IF WE WOULD HAVE LET ANOTHER BUSH WANTABEE IN OFFICE THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE. I HAD A RELATIVE PASS AWAY BECAUSE OF HEPATITIS LAST YEAR AND I WAS DAMNING GEORGE W BUSH FOR NOT FUNDING MORE RESEARCH AND TRYING TO FIND CURES.
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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And Adult stem cell research holds considerable promise AND has delivered established, beneficial results... unlike embryonic stem cell research.


Hey, check it out! Here's one of those strange people who assume that if government doesn't do it, nobody will do it! Completely ignorant, as usual, of the fact that companies have been doing plenty of research into embryonic stem cells for years, including during the GWB administration.

Nothing has come of that research, of course: It has resulted in a flat bust, NO useful results at all, unlike adult stem cell research. They are free to continue, of course, and they are, because you never know when breakthroughs might happen (despite complete failure in embryonic stem cell research so far).

I thought I'd post this to counter the limited thinking so characteristic of government-uber-alles liberals and their brain dead supporters above.
Sounds to me like you've signed on to the 'free-market is the solution to all our problems' philosophy of THE DECIDER.. Seems to me that theory went to h_e_l_l in a handbag over the past 8 years...

Stick with Bush's anti-science doctrine based on religious sentiment if you want - but to me that is being mega-uber-brain-dead..
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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It would seem selective reading runs rampant on this forum, for no one has mentioned this little exert:

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While promising, the treatment is unlikely to help the vast majority of people infected with HIV, said Dr. Jay Levy, a professor at the University of California San Francisco, who wrote an editorial accompanying the study. A stem cell transplant is too extreme and too dangerous to be used as a routine treatment, he said.
And the next portion:

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"About a third of the people die [during such transplants], so it's just too much of a risk," Levy said. To perform a stem cell transplant, doctors intentionally destroy a patient's immune system, leaving the patient vulnerable to infection, and then reintroduce a donor's stem cells (which are from either bone marrow or blood) in an effort to establish a new, healthy immune system.
Nice try though, but unfortunately for you some of us are literate. And, as usual, this thread will now drop off the front page of the forum since it has been debunked...

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