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Old 02-17-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Step one, create a liberal wish list for your supporters with nothing left off of it simply because it's too liberal, too wasteful or too stupid.

“MMD Newswire) Pittsburgh entrepreneur Glen Meakem today blasted U.S. Senator Arlen Specter's support for the Obama administration's $800+ billion spending bill, calling the package a "liberal's dream grab-bag of pork and deficit spending, which will force our kids and grandkids to sacrifice and pay for decades to come."

"Meakem, who has been active in Pennsylvania civic affairs and is often mentioned as a candidate for statewide office, said:"The only thing this Democratic Party bill will stimulate is massive government spending. Even the independent Congressional Budget Office has concluded that this legislation will mean long-term harm for our economy and except for Senator Specter and the senators from Maine, Republicans have been united in opposing this unprecedented special-interest giveaway of taxpayers' money."

Meakem Blasts Specter Spending Bill Support; Predicts GOP Primary Fight (http://www.mmdnewswire.com/meakem-specter-4572.html - broken link)

Next, use the left leaning liberal news media to create a near panic about the state of the economy and cite the so-called “stimulus package” as the only hope for our future economic well-being.

And then it’s obvious that what we did was inject a whole lot of uncertainty into the marketplace,” DeMint said. “So no, I don’t think there’s discord because of that, uh, and I really don’t blame my colleagues. If you got the President and the Secretary of the Treasury coming in saying, ‘The world economy is going to collapse next week if we don’t do something.’”

DeMint criticized the mainstream media for not conveying the message that some congressional Republicans are trying to spread about this package –that it’s filled with big-government wasteful spending projects that will do little to “stimulate” the economy.”

Senator Warns White House Will 'Create Crisis' and 'Panic' to Push Stimulus (http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090127165919.aspx - broken link)


Finally, when the spending bill passes both houses, go somewhere where the benefits of this package will be showcased. In this case, it is a museum in Colorado where solar panels are being installed.

“Ritter said Colorado is the "perfect venue" for signing of the stimulus bill because the bill includes investments in renewable energy sources being developed in Colorado, including wind and solar energy.”

"Colorado, because of the work that we've done in creating new energy economy and being able to create sustainable job growth, provided this template for the administration to say 'This is what the package is about,"' Ritter told reporters outside the museum Sunday.”

Eyes Turn To Colorado As Obama Gets Set To Sign Stimulus - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver

Solar panels? Are you seroius?

"Householders in the UK have been told that the cost of insulating their homes will be recouped through energy savings within four years, whilst solar panels could take two centuries to pay for themselves.
A price guide published by the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) estimates that installing wall cavity insulation for £400-£500 will slash up to £145 per year off the average energy bill.
Meanwhile, installing solar panels at a cost of £4,000-£5,000 is likely to save just £24 per year in energy costs.
At that rate, it would take 208 years to recoup the cost of a £5,000 solar panel.

Solar panels: inefficient and expensive?

"Right now, residential solar power costs about 37 cents per kilowatt-hour, compared to 6 to 8 cents/kwh for non-green electricity, like coal. While those prices depend on a lot of factors, like where you live, how much sun you have and what your local utility uses to generate electricity, any improvement is great. But there's some way to go before solar is truly competitive."

DVICE: Germans create the most efficient solar cells ever made

Do we really need a bunch of new AMTRAK-like money pits? If this is the best example we have of where our money is going, I'd hate to see the worst.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:34 AM
 
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With all due respect, your post is Democrat vs. Republican, Left-Right hogwash. Both parties are bought and paid for by the same ruling elite. Regardless of which party is in power the debt increases.

The only true answer to out of control debt is to Nationalize the Federal Reserve System. We need to create our own money rather than borrowing our money from the private Federal Reserve System.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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Nearly three decades too late. Someone should have told Reagan...

The least these folks could have done is come out 5-6 years ago when careless spending and big budget deficit was the norm, leading to trillions in debt. Or may be, they had dug their cave too deep, they finally managed it now.

Keep up the good job momonkey. It is threads like this that serve as pretty good political humor.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:53 AM
 
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Nearly three decades too late. Someone should have told Reagan...

The least these folks could have done is come out 5-6 years ago when careless spending and big budget deficit was the norm, leading to trillions in debt. Or may be, they had dug their cave too deep, they finally managed it now.

Keep up the good job momonkey. It is threads like this that serve as pretty good political humor.


Deficit, not debt. Last year's 455 billion defict will be at least tripled. Get it now?
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:56 AM
 
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With all due respect, your post is Democrat vs. Republican, Left-Right hogwash. Both parties are bought and paid for by the same ruling elite. Regardless of which party is in power the debt increases.

The only true answer to out of control debt is to Nationalize the Federal Reserve System. We need to create our own money rather than borrowing our money from the private Federal Reserve System.

"Regardless of which party is in power the debt increases"

When Obama signs this $800,000,000,000 spending bill the 2009 defict will at least triple. That has never happened before.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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Deficit, not debt. Last year's 455 billion defict will be at least tripled. Get it now?
Why are we in this position in the first place?

Were you all squealing like little pigs when Bush spent like a drunken sailor for eight years? I've never seen a bigger group of lobotomized hypocrites in my life!
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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Why are we in this position in the first place?

Were you all squealing like little pigs when Bush spent like a drunken sailor for eight years? I've never seen a bigger group of lobotomized hypocrites in my life!

Interesting question, but the subject of this thread is the $800,000,000,000 spending bill that no one seems to understand what it has in it or how it will create the jobs that will cost nearly $300,000 each.
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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Next, use the left leaning liberal news media to create a near panic about the state of the economy and cite the so-called “stimulus package” as the only hope for our future economic well-being.
You deny the economic problems?

That isn't science ("magic" to conservatives) like global warming.

Or are the rules for being a conservative to deny everything that you don't understand?
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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Deficit, not debt. Last year's 455 billion defict will be at least tripled. Get it now?
Glad to see that you, at the very minimum, understand the difference. Now, when did you realize that we might be heading down this issue of big deficits (which adds to debt, BTW)? It was 2001 for me (was too young to see it in 1980s). How about you?
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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So, how did Reagan and Bush manage to do it?

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