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Old 02-17-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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Beans, Bullets and Gold- Bullets to protect your beans and --gold for the future when things start to turn around.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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If you have enought food to last 90 days you have a good chance of making it. After 90 days most of the people will have starved off.
I hadn't thought about that!! Okay, I'll have 90 days worth of food. If a lot of people start starving or are killed, they can just become food themselves if things really get bad.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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This is terrifying, despite its mild title: Sharpness of Global Downturn Alarms Economists - washingtonpost.com
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:30 PM
 
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To read TimeBomb 2000 & Tree of Liberty you'd swear we as a nation are in the process of collapse at this very moment w/ empty market shelves and rioting in the streets by next week. Is all this just pure hogwash by a bunch of doom-and-gloom fanatics or are we really in the beginnings of a fast-moving meltdown?
The thing is, grocery store shelves are constantly replenished. Two or three days without shipments arriving, some items will be gone.

If there are food shortages, or the food stamps don't arrive on time, the riots will start. People could probably stay relatively calm without new clothes, only the welfare crowd would riot over the loss of cable television. Teens would have a very difficult time without their cell phones but many would get through it.

I would not like to be in the city if electricity gets shut off at times. But food is the big thing.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: US
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A lot of it is just politics and media b.s.
It's bad out there but I wouldn't worry about living in a tent city.
If it gets "tent city" bad I will be relocating to a nice big mansion with a few friends and fortifying the hell out of it. Tents are for the unwashed masses.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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>>>>If you have enought food to last 90 days you have a good chance of making it. After 90 days most of the people will have starved off.

I have my doubts. The have-nots will take from the haves. Only the strongest will survive. Pack mentality will be the rule of law if this gets as bad as the doomers are making it out to be.
And that, sir, is why many of the doomers prefer to live in the country away from the cities.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:53 PM
 
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To read TimeBomb 2000 & Tree of Liberty you'd swear we as a nation are in the process of collapse at this very moment w/ empty market shelves and rioting in the streets by next week. Is all this just pure hogwash by a bunch of doom-and-gloom fanatics or are we really in the beginnings of a fast-moving meltdown?
I have a stone cold serious request. Please revisit this post April 1st.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The thing is, grocery store shelves are constantly replenished. Two or three days without shipments arriving, some items will be gone.

If there are food shortages, or the food stamps don't arrive on time, the riots will start. People could probably stay relatively calm without new clothes, only the welfare crowd would riot over the loss of cable television. Teens would have a very difficult time without their cell phones but many would get through it.

I would not like to be in the city if electricity gets shut off at times. But food is the big thing.
The port in California just stated that shipments INTO the country are down 23%. The BDI is down too (Baltic Dry Index). That will give you a inkling of what is to come.

Just remember how much of our goods, including food is NOT MADE IN THE USA anymore !

Maritime - Weak US port traffic dampens energy demand
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"The number of loaded shipping containers going in and out of the busiest US port complex in Southern California fell 23% in December from a year earlier, and 16.4% from the previous month, according to data from the Port of Los Angeles and the Port of Long Beach.

Together the ports – the two largest in the country – handle more than 40% of US imported goods."
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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I'm going the Cheerios and beef jerky route.....along with many gallons of water, and cheap bottles of vitamin supplements from Wally world. No refrigeration required, and you can buy a ton of the stuff for a few hundred bucks. Various types of condensed soups, and a few pounds of M&M candies for a little variety. Oh, and many rounds of hollow point ammo for the guns. If things havent started getting better after 90-100 days after a total meltdown, it might be time to reconsider the whole concept of survival
I would think days 6-40 might be the roughest. Lots of hungry, desperate people starting trouble.....
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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I have a stone cold serious request. Please revisit this post April 1st.
Let's hope that we can!
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