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To the posters who said that banning gay marriage is violating a gay person's civil rights the same way that black people's used to be.....it's vastly different. Being black is not an action...sexual activity (with ANY person) is an action that is a choice. Feeling a certain way may not necessarily be a choice...but acting on that feeling is.
Forgive me if you have answered this question -- but I have asked it numerous times, and didn't see an answer yet.
Just how does two men having sex affect you? Especially in the confines of a state sanctified monogamous relationship?
Just what do you imagine would happen if gay marriage was legalized across the country?
Forgive me if you have answered this question -- but I have asked it numerous times, and didn't see an answer yet.
Just how does two men having sex affect you? Especially in the confines of a state sanctified monogamous relationship?
Just what do you imagine would happen if gay marriage was legalized across the country?
I wasn't trying to argue that anyone (gay or straight) having consensual sex should be criminalized. I was just saying that it's not the same as being black because there's a difference between your identity and your actions.
And, if gay marriage was legalized, I don't know what would happen. In my state, we have a constitutional amendment against it so I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. I believe this should absolutely be a state issue. The federal government has intruded into states' rights way too much already.
Yes I am against homosexual marriage. I am also a Christian, and believe the Bible is God's Word. The Bible tells me, homosexuality is a sin.
Having sex is a personal choice. Seeking love/completeness from members of the same gender is not. The Bible doesn't offer anything on that conundrum. Christians never address that issue because if homosexuality is indeed innate, Christianity's foundation would begin to crumble. Can't have that, can we? Can't have any part of an outdated and irrational system become exposed for what it is. But go ahead and adhere to it. It's as much a dead end as any other unprovable belief system.
To the posters who said that banning gay marriage is violating a gay person's civil rights the same way that black people's used to be.....it's vastly different. Being black is not an action...sexual activity (with ANY person) is an action that is a choice. Feeling a certain way may not necessarily be a choice...but acting on that feeling is.
Believe it or not, there are gays and lesbians who are celibate.
Since they don't "act" on their feelings, will they be the ones to receive marriages?
I wish people would get over the whole sex part when it comes to gays and lesbians and realize hey, we pay taxes too. We contribute to a system that discriminates against us.
We should have the right to make medical decisions for our partner, we should have the right to have parental rights should we decide to have children, we should have the right to buy a home together, etc.
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Here are some of the legal rights that married couples have and gays and lesbians are denied:
Joint parental rights of children
Joint adoption
Status as "next-of-kin" for hospital visits and medical decisions
Right to make a decision about the disposal of loved ones remains
Immigration and residency for partners from other countries
Crime victims recovery benefits
Domestic violence protection orders
Judicial protections and immunity
Automatic inheritance in the absence of a will
Public safety officers death benefits
Spousal veterans benefits
Social Security
Medicare
Joint filing of tax returns
Wrongful death benefits for surviving partner and children
Bereavement or sick leave to care for partner or children
Medical care for survivors and dependents of certain veterans
These are just a few of the 1400 state and federal benefits that gays and lesbians are denied by not being able to marry. Most of these benefits cannot be privately arranged or contracted for within the legal system.
I wasn't trying to argue that anyone (gay or straight) having consensual sex should be criminalized. I was just saying that it's not the same as being black because there's a difference between your identity and your actions.
And, if gay marriage was legalized, I don't know what would happen. In my state, we have a constitutional amendment against it so I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. I believe this should absolutely be a state issue. The federal government has intruded into states' rights way too much already.
I wasn't trying to argue that anyone (gay or straight) having consensual sex should be criminalized. I was just saying that it's not the same as being black because there's a difference between your identity and your actions.
And, if gay marriage was legalized, I don't know what would happen. In my state, we have a constitutional amendment against it so I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. I believe this should absolutely be a state issue. The federal government has intruded into states' rights way too much already.
If the federal government had not stepped in and intruded into states rights back in the 60's, blacks still would only be able to marry blacks, whites to whites, asians to asians etc. Being LGBT is not a choice, having sex is. Are you suggesting that gays should not have sex? If we did not have sex with the one we love, would you let us get married? I do not think so, your problem seems to be that you do not like gay sex and the solution is for you to not have gay sex or marry one of the same sex. Other wise it is none of your business who someone has sex with or falls in love with or marries.
If the federal government had not stepped in and intruded into states rights back in the 60's, blacks still would only be able to marry blacks, whites to whites, asians to asians etc. Being LGBT is not a choice, having sex is. Are you suggesting that gays should not have sex? If we did not have sex with the one we love, would you let us get married? I do not think so, your problem seems to be that you do not like gay sex and the solution is for you to not have gay sex or marry one of the same sex. Other wise it is none of your business who someone has sex with or falls in love with or marries.
The difference between a black marrying a white and two gay people marrying is different. God designed us so that only a man and a woman can start a family together. It's very simple. I know that gay couples can adopt children and many are good parents...but it is not what we are designed to do. I'm certainly not advocating ANY other form of discrimination against homosexuals.
I am not big fan of this "god" seems like he is a total douche
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