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Old 02-22-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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awwww. Is poor Keyes still sore from that time he carpetbagged over to IL to run against Barack for the Senate, only to have his rear end handed to him in the general election?

Poor widdle guy.

Yes, it looks as though Keyes has finally recovered from being exposed as a verbose twit when the Illinois GOP pulled him from near-obscurity to run against President Obama during their senatorial race. Clearly his ego can't
comprehend that, despite his vocabulary, he's unable to articulate any sensibile arguments...just another Chatty Cathy sans intellect. Some people never learn.
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Who's Alan Keyes?
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Alan Keyes rips on obama; Abortion, eligibility, infanticide


Keyes is the stereotypical inbred idiot and only the same would give his word any weight on ANYTHING.
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Keyes is the stereotypical inbred idiot and only the same would give his word any weight on ANYTHING.
I would think obama more likely to be inbred, considering his heritage. He is a bastard child after, isn't he?
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:58 PM
 
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Prove it. provide a link.
His ancestors were slaves in Montgomery County, Maryland, not far from where Alan and his family now live. According to the Keyes family's oral history, Alan's ancestors were owned by the composer of the National Anthem, Francis Scott Key, and lived on the Key Plantation. After they were freed, someone in Alan's lineage changed the family name to Keyes.

Q&A :: Alan Keyes for President 2008

See where he got his last name? Can't get much more American than that!

Now why don't you radical leftists go back to badmouthing Palin's daughter and we can see where Alan Keyes will take us?

GO KEYES!!!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:52 PM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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His ancestors were slaves in Montgomery County, Maryland, not far from where Alan and his family now live. According to the Keyes family's oral history, Alan's ancestors were owned by the composer of the National Anthem, Francis Scott Key, and lived on the Key Plantation. After they were freed, someone in Alan's lineage changed the family name to Keyes.

Q&A :: Alan Keyes for President 2008

See where he got his last name? Can't get much more American than that!

Now why don't you radical leftists go back to badmouthing Palin's daughter and we can see where Alan Keyes will take us?

GO KEYES!!!!!!!
thanks for the link.
did you know that john mc cain's ancestors owned slaves? I wonder of part of the keyes family was also part of the mc cain clan? but, you'll have to admit that keyes is a loser, and that he'll probably never be elected as president because his ideas and beliefs are far more radical and any neocons beliefs could ever hope to be, and we don't need any more right-wing radicals running the country at least for the next 8 years, they've already damaged America's image enough in the past 8.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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This is golden! Gotta listen to this.

YouTube - Keyes: Stop Obama or U.S. will cease to exist

He makes a lot of sense, especially on the economy and the trillions that obama and the dems will be spending.
Right. Keyes is speaking for many, many people in Oklahoma.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:40 AM
 
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actually if you think about it the only bastard really is Alan Keyes. So much for a man who goes around quoting the Bible, Jesus & God yet rejects his own daughter because she is gay.He is a hypocritical charlatan.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:26 PM
 
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Default Hammer hitting nail flat top with precision

I personally think that Mr. Keyes should be lauded for making some of the most comprehensible and logically valid points against Obama's support for live birth abortion and abortion in general of any politician to date. Radical or not (which is better than apathetic), at least he is not a populist ideologue saying anything to get votes only to backtrack later as Obama has (e.g. public financing, signing statements, wiretapping, etc.).

Barack Obama has consistently lied about and misrepresented his stance on live birth abortion. He has said at some points that the mother's life should be protected and that is an excuse for the procedure.

However, he recognized during one of the very bills on the matter (Born Alive Infants Protection Act, transcript pgs. 85-88) that [his own words] "there was a method of abortion, an induced abortion, where the fetus or child... is temporarily alive outside the womb... [and] were not being properly cared for in that brief period of time that they were still living." In other words, being outside the womb, the mother's life was not a concern.

Likewise, he stated that he would have voted for the federal version of the bill. However, the bill quoted from above was a clone of the federal bill, and when an amendment was posed to make it word for word identical, Obama brought it up in the Health and Human Services Committee that he chaired, and voted against it, helping to defeat it. He then said because it was NOT identical that he would not support it, a very misleading and hypocritical statement that even FactCheck.org, often accused of having a liberal bias, recognized as deliberately misleading and inaccurate.

Most recently he has claimed the current Illinois laws already prevented such abortions. This of course was a direct lie for anyone familiar with the history of the famous federal bill that Obama tried to suggest he would have supported, since it dealt primarily with Illinois laws and events, since key witnesses Jill Stanek and Allison Baker worked in a hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois. Illinois, quite possibly moreso than any other state, was first and foremost that state whose laws caused the federal bill to ultimately outlaw partial birth abortions.

My one problem with Keyes and others of the conservative crowd is that they lump everything of a socialistic nature in together as inherently wrong, just like the very real crime of abortion. There are some good U.S. programs stemming from socialism such as Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and public welfare programs. Is it logically right that some form of basic public healthcare should be available to everyone in a moral country? That regulations should be placed on CEOs, industries, and foreign trade? That the death penalty should be opposed in the same way abortion is, as a threat to life and justice? (Although I do think Keyes explains his position on this better than most - though I still disagree.)

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Old 08-09-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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Concerning the general topic of whether abortion is right or wrong, I'd like to call attention to some facts and lines of thought that the typical misinformed pro-choice supporter may not have yet heard of or considered at this point in time:

FACTS:


-Even before Roe v. Wade (legalization of abortion), many states DID allow abortions in the case of rape or the mother's life endangered from a pregnancy.
-The majority of Americans now consider themselves to be pro-life. Gallup Poll, LifeNews
-67% of Democrats would outlaw some or all abortions. Gallup Poll, DFLA Brochure


REASONING:

-With 'rights' come also consequences, commitments, and responsibilities. No one should have as a right the option to pass the consequences of their lifestyle choices onto their own children.
-Women should have their reasonable rights, but the right to infringe upon another's rights is specifically prohibited within the Constitution. Your right to throw a punch should stop where another's nose begins. Nobody should have the right to murder.
-Nowhere in the Constitution is the right to one's own body named as 'inalienable'. There are 3 'inalienable' rights, meaning they apply under all circumstances - those are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Without the right to life, the others can not follow.
-The Constitution expressly states that this right to life is not conditioned on human beings, but upon the Creator. Whether or not another person, such as one's parents, wants them in the world, is irrelevant. If that were the case, Eugenics would be more popular, and the orphans and homeless killed off, just as the Nazis did to Gypsies - and Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was a huge supporter of Eugenics.
-The question therefore is not whether or not women should have the right to end their children's lives. It is whether those children are in fact fellow human beings.
-We should be erring on the side of caution when potentially taking a human life, not seeing how close we can skirt the line for our own selfish lifestyle desires. Murder is a serious enough criminal act that we should not so lightly deem another human being inhuman.
-America has a long history of considering classes of its citizens subhuman so that it can thus use them for the advantage of certain of its citizens. Native Americans, African Americans, Japanese Americans, and Mexican Americans have all at one point or another been considered a lower class. Virtually every minority with little rights to stand up for themselves has, at one point or another in history, been subjugated to the shame of its nation in later generations.
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