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Old 03-13-2009, 11:06 AM
 
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The notion of America losing respect under Bush was always just a partisan sham purveyed by the left.

No, it is documented reality. Why can't you acknowledge reality? Why do you have to lie? And since you choose to lie, how can one take your thread seriously?




This doesn't mean everybody liked us under Bush. After all, France, Germany, Russia, and the UN all had illegal under-the-table deals with Saddam that we exposed to the world.


Our country was involed in it too. Yeah next time do your homework before writing such a sloppy thread filled with lies.

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Old 03-13-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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The notion of America losing respect under Bush was always just a partisan sham purveyed by the left. We, in fact, were hugely respected after Iraq because 1) we showed we wouldn't put up with crap 2) we proved to our allies we keep our word.

This doesn't mean everybody liked us under Bush. After all, France, Germany, Russia, and the UN all had illegal under-the-table deals with Saddam that we exposed to the world. Yeah, those countries got mad at us all right. While they were preaching peace and socialism, they were cheating; they were abetting worldwide terrorism. They were angry that Bush upset that gravy train. But make no mistake; these countries respected us greatly under Bush.

Now look at today. Under Obama, we are rapidly becoming laughingstocks and punchlines in the financial world. We have erstwhile economic failures like Russia and China scolding us, formerly the world's greatest capitalist icon, for becoming socialist. They are laughing at us for embracing the very economic philosophy they had just finished rejecting because they witnessed first hand the abject failure of socialism. They are ridiculing us because after decades of eating steak, we are now seeking out stale peanut butter sandwiches. After decades of riding high in a Cadillac, we are searching for a Yugo. After living in the Ritz Carlton, we have opted for Motel 6. We have dumped Charlize Theron for Tori Spelling.

Britain is laughing at us for eagerly anticipating a failed health care system they are in the process of scrapping. "Didn't they watch us wallow for years? Didn't they see the doctor shortages? What is America thinking"? asked Christopher Hitchens?

Iran is laughing with glee now. They know they have a lightweight pushover running our military now; someone who, in fact, despises the military. Osama Bin Laden, whose recent messages have sounded exactly like Obama campaign messages, has to be rubbing his hands together in anticipation, KNOWING America will return to the Clinton years and not respond strongly to an attack.

Under Bush, world liberals and Islamic terrorists hated us, yes. But they damn sure respected us. Today, they are all laughing at us. This time it's more than partisan spin; it's the truth.

Your babbling, spoiled brat, dry drunk, sociopathic, lying hero Bush gave Osama bin Laden exactly what bin Laden demanded. You were not aware of it because you only know what you are spoonfed by right wing Neocon shills.

US pulls out of Saudi Arabia
Tuesday, 29 April, 2003

Saudi Arabia is home to some of Islam's holiest sites and the deployment of US forces there was seen as a historic betrayal by many Islamists, notably Osama Bin Laden.

It is one of the main reasons given by the Saudi-born dissident - blamed by Washington for the 11 September attacks - to justify violence against the United States and its allies.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | US pulls out of Saudi Arabia

This is why Osama bin Laden has not attacked us again. Bush bowed down to Osama's demand and that is the bottom line!
 
Old 03-13-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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Sorry dude, but I spent a lot of time in Europe and I never heard one good thing about Bush, but I certainly heard a lot of negatives about him. Not only there, but in Cuba and Mexico as well.
Have you ever been exposed to the media in Europe?
That populace would hate Christ if he got on the media's bad side.

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Is that the same Osama Bin Laden that Bush said would be captured after 9/11? It took us less time to destroy the entire German army, liberate Europe and corner Hitler while he killed himself...
Bin Laden is dead!
It's funny how you all believe that Bush is guilty of so many dishonest tactics in order to keep America scared in the war on terror but you believe him when he says that Bin Laden is alive because it makes him look bad in your eyes.

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How come there were WORLD-WIDE celebrations when Obama was elected and inagurated? They were everywhere, from Africa, to Asia, to Australia, to South America, to Europe, and they were celebrating because they hated Bush.
Because people are stupid.

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Finally, how can you blame Obama for anything ECONOMIC when it was clearly Bush who caused the collapse? I am not a fan of most of Obama's proposals, but to suggest that we somehow lost respect worldwide for replacing a stuttering moron who destroyed the global economy while destabilizing the Middle East and causing a massive rise in terrorism with an eloquent man that stands as a sign of the progress America has made in racial relations.
What he means is that Bush may have not been liked but he was at least feared.
Syria has been soiling their drawers for the last eight years thinking that they are next.
Over the next couple of years as Obama attempts to start a dialogue with all these nations, you are going to start seeing tough talk resuming from these nations. You will also see these nations going back to their old ways of financing and harboring terrorists.

BTW only a fool who has not a clue as to what he is talking about thinks that the Middle East was stable before 9/11.
 
Old 03-13-2009, 11:54 AM
 
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Bin Laden is dead!
It's funny how you all believe that Bush is guilty of so many dishonest tactics in order to keep America scared in the war on terror but you believe him when he says that Bin Laden is alive because it makes him look bad in your eyes.
What? Ok, please explain to me....if Bin Laden is truly dead & Bush knew this, tell me why he would continue to allow us to believe he was alive? Does he WANT us to know what a complete turd he is, does he want to have a tarnished image? And if he is dead, how do you know this? Do you have spies embedded?
 
Old 03-13-2009, 12:04 PM
 
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Have you ever been exposed to the media in Europe?
That populace would hate Christ if he got on the media's bad side.

Bin Laden is dead!
It's funny how you all believe that Bush is guilty of so many dishonest tactics in order to keep America scared in the war on terror but you believe him when he says that Bin Laden is alive because it makes him look bad in your eyes.

Because people are stupid.

What he means is that Bush may have not been liked but he was at least feared.
Syria has been soiling their drawers for the last eight years thinking that they are next.
Over the next couple of years as Obama attempts to start a dialogue with all these nations, you are going to start seeing tough talk resuming from these nations. You will also see these nations going back to their old ways of financing and harboring terrorists.

BTW only a fool who has not a clue as to what he is talking about thinks that the Middle East was stable before 9/11.


LMAO, ANY ONE ELSE ON THE FLOOR laughing at this one as well? oooh that was funny. Oh my ooooh...Too funny
 
Old 03-13-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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What? Ok, please explain to me....if Bin Laden is truly dead & Bush knew this, tell me why he would continue to allow us to believe he was alive? Does he WANT us to know what a complete turd he is, does he want to have a tarnished image? And if he is dead, how do you know this? Do you have spies embedded?
Many people believe that he is dead. Only Bush isn't the boy who "smoked him out." Either way, it was beneficial for The Bush Crime Family to keep a boogeyman alive in the minds of the American people. They fed us fear so that they could continue to strive towards their very corrupt agenda. Maybe he really is dead and we will never know the truth out of the mouths of governement.

Benazir Bhutto named Osama bin Laden’s killer before her death

Benazir Bhutto named Osama bin Laden’s killer before her death - Pravda.Ru

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Old 03-13-2009, 12:51 PM
 
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Many people believe that he is dead. Only Bush isn't the boy who "smoked him out." Either way, it was beneficial for The Bush Crime Family to keep a boogeyman alive in the minds of the American people. They fed us fear so that they could continue to strive towards their very corrupt agenda. Maybe he really is dead and we will never know the truth out of the mouths of governement.

Benazir Bhutto named Osama bin Laden’s killer before her death

Benazir Bhutto named Osama bin Laden’s killer before her death - Pravda.Ru
That looks like an interesting site, I've never heard of it before.
 
Old 03-13-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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All i was tring to say was .we are america thats what we vote for, not the party its like a smoker , if i smoke then its my fault no one forced it on me stop blaming the producers of cigeretts if i take drugs its me not anyone else dont blame the person who got the water
bush did what he did now the new president will do the same dont blame the partys
 
Old 03-13-2009, 02:43 PM
 
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What? Ok, please explain to me....if Bin Laden is truly dead & Bush knew this, tell me why he would continue to allow us to believe he was alive? Does he WANT us to know what a complete turd he is, does he want to have a tarnished image? And if he is dead, how do you know this? Do you have spies embedded?
That was my point.
 
Old 03-13-2009, 02:45 PM
 
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LMAO, ANY ONE ELSE ON THE FLOOR laughing at this one as well? oooh that was funny. Oh my ooooh...Too funny
Your debate skills are awe-inspiring.
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