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Old 02-24-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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Perhaps it's better this way - America has been living high on the hog for decades, maybe it's time for other countries to have their day in the sun.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:22 PM
 
Location: USA
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Perhaps it's better this way - America has been living high on the hog for decades, maybe it's time for other countries to have their day in the sun.
Let's start by taking what you have and spreading it around then, since you believe in Communism.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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We are in a world economy. From Monaco to Canada, from the US to China, from the poorest African nation, to the richest European, from Indonesia to Argentina, never in history has trade between nations been so important. Our entire globe has something to sell/or serve and those products and services need a buyer.

We could shut the borders, we could close all ports and become true isolationists. Here in the US, we'd probably adjust and survive, but there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth for a while, but the US labor force must understand that the products and services we buy can't be built in the US for the profitable price we are willing to pay.

The Global Economy is truly the largest "supply vs demand" economy imaginable. No government of any style or any size can overcome the power of such an economy. The USSR/North Korea/China from 1948-1990's are all perfect examples of how desolate a closed door and lack of willingness to allow free flow of goods and services nationally and internationally create internal poverty and regression. No, not "DE" pression, but rather "RE" gression.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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We have the highest business tax rate in the industrialized world - and obama looks to increase that rate. Absolute disaster.

He needs to cut it and the unions need to go away.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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We have the highest business tax rate in the industrialized world - and obama looks to increase that rate. Absolute disaster.

He needs to cut it and the unions need to go away.
It's funny that you are still repeating that, considering that after tax havens, credits and loopholes we're actually near the bottom.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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We are in a world economy. From Monaco to Canada, from the US to China, from the poorest African nation, to the richest European, from Indonesia to Argentina, never in history has trade between nations been so important. Our entire globe has something to sell/or serve and those products and services need a buyer.

We could shut the borders, we could close all ports and become true isolationists. Here in the US, we'd probably adjust and survive, but there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth for a while, but the US labor force must understand that the products and services we buy can't be built in the US for the profitable price we are willing to pay.

The Global Economy is truly the largest "supply vs demand" economy imaginable. No government of any style or any size can overcome the power of such an economy. The USSR/North Korea/China from 1948-1990's are all perfect examples of how desolate a closed door and lack of willingness to allow free flow of goods and services nationally and internationally create internal poverty and regression. No, not "DE" pression, but rather "RE" gression.
very well put tomocox, and I agree.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Never say never, we need to get off this idea that we are all going to college and are going to be Doctors and Lawyers. We need factories and factory workers working for salaries that provide a middle class wage.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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We have the highest business tax rate in the industrialized world - and obama looks to increase that rate. Absolute disaster.

He needs to cut it and the unions need to go away.
The U.S. is 4th from last in tax dollars collected by the governements of industrialized nations. Do you still think business needs tax relief?

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Old 11-05-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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We have the highest business tax rate in the industrialized world - and obama looks to increase that rate. Absolute disaster.

He needs to cut it and the unions need to go away.


Yeah that's right the answer is to lower our wages to compete with china and mexico etc. Not to stop allowing huge business to outsource everything, take american jobs and screw the workers with nothing but huge profits to show for it?????????????
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:44 PM
 
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Since we no longer actually make anything here we are slaves to china. I beg you to go into best buy etc and find something made here. Our largest exports are wood and trash. Yep trash that we sell to china so they can recycle it and package up goods to sell back to us. Goods made by children and forced labor. Wake up people, if we don't bring our jobs back we will never recover.
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