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***the idea that spending a dollar today to save two dollars tomorrow can be a pretty good strategy.***
I can't see where we save $2 dollars on any dollars spent in that "stimulus" law, the "Thing" as I refer to it, but if you can show me where I think I am smart enough to see it. Please show it to me at your first chance. Obama rhetoric won't satisfy me. I need some real proof.
All I have to say is that there were a total of two terms obviously 8 years.... and we're a month in???? How is that people were supportive in the midst of the worst times with the Bush Administration, however when the tables turn people feel the need to toss negativity around as if he's already proven incompetence? RELAX, there should not be one person who is not feeling the effects of our economy. Just my opinion of course....
The state of Maryland was slated to lay off 700 employees each of whom would have been eligible for both unemployment, food stamps. Take the loss in tax revenue plus the cost in unemployment and other benefits and see what you come up with.
How will that happen? How will we be saving 2 dollars tomorrow? Have you ever known a government entitlement to shrink, end or disappear?
Railroad workers benefits have shrunk, the original GI Bill expired, Civil War Veterans and Dependents pensions are now down to $0 annually.
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Originally Posted by sanrene
There is no escaping the fact that obama has AT LEAST tripled the deficit.
Only within the confines of a static mind. You won't know how bad the deficit would have been this year without the Recovery Act, because that would require modeling and you don't know how to do that. You don't know how much unemployment, personal and corporate bankruptcies, home foreclosures and the like would have cost in direct and indirect terms, nor do you know how much more than what it is currently spending the government would have had to spend to have any impact six months or a year from now. You don't know any of these things. But you do know how to produce partisan whine, so that's what you resort to.
The state of Maryland was slated to lay off 700 employees each of whom would have been eligible for both unemployment, food stamps. Take the loss in tax revenue plus the cost in unemployment and other benefits and see what you come up with.
Don't mean to sound insensitive, but how many of those 700 employees were earning their paycheck and doing things really necessary for the operation of the state government?
When businesses have less business to do, they are forced to lay off staff, reduce compensation levels, or cut payrolls. Somehow, that is never the case with governments.
That is the point of the OP, and it remains unaddressed.
Railroad workers benefits have shrunk, the original GI Bill expired, Civil War Veterans and Dependents pensions are now down to $0 annually.
Only within the confines of a static mind. You won't know how bad the deficit would have been this year without the Recovery Act, because that would require modeling and you don't know how to do that. You don't know how much unemployment, personal and corporate bankruptcies, home foreclosures and the like would have cost in direct and indirect terms, nor do you know how much more than what it is currently spending the government would have had to spend to have any impact six months or a year from now. You don't know any of these things. But you do know how to produce partisan whine, so that's what you resort to.
Speaking of stasis: model up our energy costs with offshore exploration and ANWR drilling thrown in to increase supply; model increased use of nuclear power with a lid placed on the number of times The China Syndrome can be shown on TCM; model up reductions in state, county, and municipal governmental costs sans AFSCME. You may know how to do these things, but you prefer the silence of cynicism.
[quote=roysoldboy;7627918I can't see where we save $2 dollars on any dollars spent in that "stimulus" law, the "Thing" as I refer to it, but if you can show me where I think I am smart enough to see it. Please show it to me at your first chance. Obama rhetoric won't satisfy me. I need some real proof.[/QUOTE]
Since you can't afford my rates, try proving it to yourself: If your house is on fire, how quickly do you want the fire put out? Why is that?
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