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Old 02-27-2009, 09:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eeeee22895 View Post
- I say it's economics and what the political parties are really about.
- Children should be taught the basics of national economics. Corporations are NOT evil; they are the very backbone of our economic system.
- Children should be taught to challenge the notion that high achievers should be punished by being disporportionally taxed.
- Just tell them those things are really happening with the two political parties.
Are you f.......... serious???

Here's the "socialist/communist" idea to "destroy" a country:
Every year from 7th to 12th grade should have a "Social responsibility class" in which they would be taught:
- To balance a fake personal budget every single week, so they see that when a person makes X amount of money, they always end up spending 50% just on basic things.
- To cook and teach them write down every single time how much money they saved with the meal that they just cooked.
- To know what is like to raise a baby, make them carry a baby around for 2 years.
- Make them write a resume, go to interviews and get a job that doesn't require a HS diploma. Then make them do their budget and ask them how much money they have.
After a year of that, take them to visit doctors, engineers, dentists, etc, etc. to find out what they do for living and what they had to do to get their college diploma.
- Take them to a jail and make them talk one-to-one with people that are in jail to learn what is like to be in there.
- You can throw in a few other things such as: How to take care of your car, Electrical safety, First emergency aid, etc, etc.

In few words... teach them to be self-sufficient and responsible adults.

 
Old 02-27-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth
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EEEEEEEEEEEE, keep your facist politics out of my schools. I do not want religion, any religion taught in schools and I do not want your "special" brand of capitalism taught in our schools.

I want the 3 R's logic, critical thinking and facts taught, not your Republican dogma.

Crawl back to the other site where you came from, all the liberals left, so why are you here? Govenour Times is now a right wing echo chamber, so be gone. You have what you want there, so why pollute the waters here? Your hate filled filth is at home over there with you and Roy.

Adios
 
Old 02-27-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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By the way,the middle class workers and NOT the corporations are the backbone of our society!!!
 
Old 02-27-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Reading and writing. All else will follow.
 
Old 02-27-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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By the way,the middle class workers and NOT the corporations are the backbone of our society!!!
 
Old 02-28-2009, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by Hi Horse View Post
EEEEEEEEEEEE, keep your facist politics out of my schools. I do not want religion, any religion taught in schools and I do not want your "special" brand of capitalism taught in our schools.

I want the 3 R's logic, critical thinking and facts taught, not your Republican dogma.

Crawl back to the other site where you came from, all the liberals left, so why are you here? Govenour Times is now a right wing echo chamber, so be gone. You have what you want there, so why pollute the waters here? Your hate filled filth is at home over there with you and Roy.

Adios
And what facts would you have taught, Mr. Horse? You say that you want only the 3 Rs, logic, and facts taught. What facts do you have in mind.

BTW, why do I find you hiding behind a new name. Did you get a crop on your ears?
 
Old 02-28-2009, 01:29 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by Eeeee22895 View Post
I say it's economics and what the political parties are really about. If every child were taught something about spending within your means, America wouldn't be putting up with these horrendous giveaways and pork barrel spending we are seeing the past month from the Obama administration.

Children should be taught the basics of national economics. Corporations are NOT evil; they are the very backbone of our economic system. We should teach kids that corporations invest capital, provide innovations, make necessary goods and services, and create jobs. Government does none of these.

Children should be taught to challenge the notion that high achievers should be punished by being disporportionally taxed. Kids have an instinctive understanding of fairness. Try this exercise. Ask the students how they would like to study two hours every night, do extra credit projects, and stay after school for homework help while their classmates go home and do nothing but watch TV and play video games while eating chips and drinking soda, THEN have the lazy classmates receive the better grade? That's basically what's going on with the bailout of people facing foreclosure.

Along the same vein of fairness here's another game: Child A and Child B are running for class president. Child A promises the class that he will pay each a dollar if they vote for him. Child B just promises to work hard if elected, and pledges to try to get the whole class to work harder in school. Child A then steals a $20 bill from Child B, gives a dollar to each class member and keeps the rest for himself. Child A then tells the class how generous he is for giving them money and how Child B is selfish for not wanting to give. Yet it was Child B's money all along. The poorest kids elect Child A, because they wanted the money and didn't want to have to work hard. Child A wins.

Ask the students if they think the above scenarios were fair. Then explain to them that is exactly how the two political parties operate.

Here's a final exercise:

Two people each started a business. Person A spent money very carefully. He saved what he could then bought supplies for his business only when he had enough money. He worked hard, figured out how to draw new customers, served the customers well, and earned money. He then invested that money and opened three other stores, hired a lot of people who worked hard and satisfied the customers.

Person B didn't save enough money to buy a business but he lied about his income and fooled a bank into loaning him that money. He didn't work hard, didn't serve his customers, and didn't invest his money. Instead, he lavished his money on friends and on people who helped him lie to the bank to get money. When his business started to falter, he made up more lies, fooled more banks, and borrowed more money. Finally, he told the banks he wasn't going to pay them anymore, closed the business, and the few workers he had lost their jobs.

Teachers, you don't even have to mention political parties. You don't have to. Just tell them those things are really happening with the two political parties. Appeal to their sense of fairness, and encourage them to develop the political philosophy of their own choosing. If generations of American kids were taught wonderful lessons like this every day in class, our nation would be much more prosperous, there wouldn't be as much dependency, and above all, we wouldn't be electing the folks who caused our current economic problems to "solve" the problem.
Excellent idea! I'm outta rep points for ya so
 
Old 02-28-2009, 01:33 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by PureNarcotic View Post
Agreed. I agree with what the OP says in the first couple of lines - that we should be teaching economics at an earlier age. Not necessarily the ultra-complex stuff, but just some of the basics...things like the stock market. The vast majority of students, myself included, were staring dumbfounded when the teacher or the textbook was describing the causes of the Great Depression - some economic knowledge would have helped to understand it more clearly. The rest of what the OP said is essentially jamming capitalism down students' throats. The last thing we need is another generation of greedy Wall St predators.
Nah ... We don't need more "greedy wall street predators", we just need obedient citizens who blindly accepts excessive taxation (theft) from our government to waste as they please.
 
Old 02-28-2009, 01:39 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by Dopo View Post

Here's the "socialist/communist" idea to "destroy" a country:
Every year from 7th to 12th grade should have a "Social responsibility class" in which they would be taught:
- To balance a fake personal budget every single week, so they see that when a person makes X amount of money, they always end up spending 50% just on basic things.
- To cook and teach them write down every single time how much money they saved with the meal that they just cooked.
- To know what is like to raise a baby, make them carry a baby around for 2 years.
- Make them write a resume, go to interviews and get a job that doesn't require a HS diploma. Then make them do their budget and ask them how much money they have.
After a year of that, take them to visit doctors, engineers, dentists, etc, etc. to find out what they do for living and what they had to do to get their college diploma.
- Take them to a jail and make them talk one-to-one with people that are in jail to learn what is like to be in there.
- You can throw in a few other things such as: How to take care of your car, Electrical safety, First emergency aid, etc, etc.

In few words... teach them to be self-sufficient and responsible adults.
Those activities are also excellent learning tools as well.
 
Old 02-28-2009, 01:41 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
39,031 posts, read 22,947,135 times
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Originally Posted by Hi Horse View Post
EEEEEEEEEEEE, keep your facist politics out of my schools. I do not want religion, any religion taught in schools and I do not want your "special" brand of capitalism taught in our schools.

I want the 3 R's logic, critical thinking and facts taught, not your Republican dogma.

Crawl back to the other site where you came from, all the liberals left, so why are you here? Govenour Times is now a right wing echo chamber, so be gone. You have what you want there, so why pollute the waters here? Your hate filled filth is at home over there with you and Roy.

Adios
Now who has an issue with hate? I think you need to get off your high horse and debate the merit of what the OP suggests instead of insulting him/her.
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