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Obama never promised to remove all troops from Iraq. He promised to remove combat troops. Big difference. Campaign promise kept.
We just built a HUGE embassy down there. We're not going anywhere.
Your kidding right... is this tongue in cheek? Cuz my perception calibration is a bit off the last couple days....
You realize combat troops have to remain to protect any NON combat troops, like boy scout leaders, clergy, cooks, tent menders....lol...tent menders... i crack myself up sometimes...
Non-combat troops are armed and performing military duties in Iraq just like non-combat troops in Germany still are. I just don't understand the confusion on this issue.
Non-combat troops are armed and performing military duties in Iraq just like non-combat troops in Germany still are. I just don't understand the confusion on this issue.
and it's "you're kidding" not "your kidding".
I'm sorry you're right: You can take the kid out of the PUblic Skool, but you can't that Publik Skul out of the kid.
Remove ALL US troops from Iraq and Afganistan, and use the money and manpower in the US. Stop occupying other countries, stop meddling and stop bombing them.
Kudos for sticking by your guns. I don't agree of course but at least you are Obamanized on the issue.
No, he's just hyper-hypocritical, wanting to enjoy the benefits of world domination without having to actually DO anything except complain about the stuff he sees on MSNBC.
That way he can have his cheap consumer goods and gasoline and not think about the people who make it possible for him to have them. After all, they're just (mostly) straight guys without college degrees who probably live in mobile homes in flyover America. And vote (yuck) Republican. So he heck with them.
Iraq has a government and an Army. Policing Iraq is not our job. Quite frankly most of us don't give a Sunni what happens there anymore. It is not our problem. We handed them democracy- it is up to them to make it work.
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It's time to pull out... because we never should have gone in and ravaged that country to begin with.
Can you talk out of both sides of your mouth a little more?
First it was " we never should have gone there and Saddam is a great guy" then it was " we gave them democracy" which besically means we liberated them.
I understand that the left wing radical America haters have been preaching certain things and you have been believing them but just recognize that, lie or not to get us there, there did turn out to be good things like freeing the good Iraqis from tyranny
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Can you talk out of both sides of your mouth a little more?
First it was " we never should have gone there and Saddam is a great guy" then it was " we gave them democracy" which besically means we liberated them.
I understand that the left wing radical America haters have been preaching certain things and you have been believing them but just recognize that, lie or not to get us there, there did turn out to be good things like freeing the good Iraqis from tyranny
Who said Saddam was a great guy? I don't care a crap about him. He got what he deserved when he was hanged. But it is not the job of the US Army and US taxpayers to babysit that country. At some point enough is enough.
Can you talk out of both sides of your mouth a little more?
First it was " we never should have gone there and Saddam is a great guy" then it was " we gave them democracy" which besically means we liberated them.
I understand that the left wing radical America haters have been preaching certain things and you have been believing them but just recognize that, lie or not to get us there, there did turn out to be good things like freeing the good Iraqis from tyranny
I know it's hard, but can you stop lying? I never said 'Saddam is a great guy' and I never said we 'gave them Democracy'. It is totally disingenuous to say that we went to Iraq to topple a tyrant and 'give them democracy'. We have supported numerous dictators around the world when they served our interests, and Saddam was one of them. The Iraqi civilization is centruies older than our own, and we have no right to shove our idea of what 'democracy' is, down their throats, by bombing and killing them. It doesn't work that way. Many Middle Easterners were anxious to come to America and emulate American culture before the war. No more.
The President is not trying to appease the republicans. He is taking the advice of the generals on the ground, while keeping his campaign promises.
I don't want the troops in Iraq a day longer than necessary, but, there has to be an orderly draw-down.
As for the Democrats, neither Pelosi nor Reid have a leg to stand on with regard to this issue.
The Democrats assumed a majority in 2006 based on their promises to bring the troops home. They failed miserably and they know it. Now they want to to step up? Too little, too late.
Excellent analysis. As someone who gladly voted for Obama, I would have been more concerned had he started moving on getting all the troops out immediately. He is stuck with Bush's mess and has to clean it up in the most responsible way possible, in accordance with -
1. the generals on the ground and
2. the Iraqi government which he is treating as a sovereign nation instead of a puppet or little child like his predecessor did.
Excellent work so far.
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