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Heres a simple question. When your team is getting their butt kicked in the super bowl, are you the one talking smack to everyone else? Obviously not and thats why the phrase FISCAL CONSERVATIVE must have been invented after the GOP crawled back under their rocks this January!
Seems like a lot of people are claiming to be Fiscal Conservatives but I haven't heard anything about fiscal conservatism over the last 8 years so when did this fad begin?
I think that you are wrong. Many "loyalists" deserted Bush in the last 2 years and that's why his approval rates took such a dive. One issue was his spending which many fiscal conservatives objected. I also read republican critics who said that evangelists and fiscal conservatives do not have much in common and that the coalition between the two should be abandoned.
That being said, it is much easier for ALL right wing to criticize Obama, even before he took office.
That is probably why celebirty endorsements are welcomed with open arms by the DNC.
Ah, unlike;
Danny Aiello,
Kim Alexis, pro-life, born-again Christian former model
June Allyson
Gene Autry
Scott Baio, attended President Ronald Reagan's funeral in June 2004
Adam Baldwin, not a "Baldwin brother"
Stephen Baldwin, Republican Baldwin brother and born-again Christian; appeared at the 2004 Republican National Convention [1]
James Belushi
Crystal Bernard
David Blaine
Ward Bond
Pat Boone, appeared at 2000 Republican National Convention
Ernest Borgnine,
Julie Bowen,
Bruce Boxleitner, but wife Melissa Gilbert is a Democrat.
Walter Brennan
Wilford Brimley
Morgan Brittany
Zachary Ty Bryan
Delta Burke, married to Gerald McRaney
James Caan
James Cagney, originally Democrat, became more conservative over the years.
Dean Cain,
Kirk Cameron
Drew Carey
Dixie Carter,
Nancy Cartwright (voice of Bart Simpson)
Emma Caulfield,
James Caviezel
Lacey Chabert, Supports McCain for President
Joan Chen
Dick Clark
Claudette Colbert
Jeff Conaway
Chuck Connors
Mike Connors
Lauren Conrad,
Robert Conrad
Gary Cooper
Lou Costello
Jon Cryer,
Bing Crosby
Charlie Daniels
Robert Davi
Nancy Davis,
Doris Day
Yvonne DeCarlo, Democrat who voted for Ronald Reagan
Bo Derek,
Shannen Doherty, "
Jerry Doyle, #14
Fred Dryer (also football player)
Irene Dunne
Robert Duvall, "
Clint Eastwood
Leslie Easterbrook
Bill Engvall
R. Lee Ermey
Chad Everett
Jinx Falkenburg, Republican activist & fund-raiser
Jamie Farr
Glenn Ford
Jeff Foxworthy
Dennis Franz, [11]
Clark Gable
Eva Gabor
Vincent Gallo, also director
Andy Garcia, actor, director
John Gavin, actor, later Republican political appointee (as envoy to Mexico)
Mel Gibson, [12]
Kelsey Grammer, donated money in support of President Bush and Republicans 2004 [13], [14]
Fred Grandy, also a former congressman from Iowa
Cary Grant
Lee Greenwood, oft-married right-wing singer-songwriter
Tammy Grimes
Sammy Hagar, has been documented giving to Republicans
George Hamilton
Margaret Hamilton
Lionel Hampton
Angie Harmon,
Helen Hayes, attended several Republican National Conventions
Patricia Heaton, Republican due to pro-life position[17],[18]
Charlton Heston,
Catherine Hicks
Hal Holbrook
William Holden
Bob Hope, long-time Republican supporter
Dennis Hopper,
Hedda Hopper
Jonathan Jackson; he and his brother Richard campaigned for George W. Bush [20]
Richard Lee Jackson, he and his brother Jonathan campaigned for George W. Bush [21]
John James, appeared at 1988 Republican National Convention
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, appeared at 2000 Republican National Convention
Al Jolson, campaigned for Calvin Coolidge
Dean Jones
Shirley Jones, appeared at the 1988 Republican National Convention; sang national anthem
Naomi Judd
Yaphet Kotto
Cheryl Ladd, appeared at 1988 Republican National Convention
Larry The Cable Guy
Heather Locklear, "She’s a registered Republican!" - Maxim Magazine"
Anita Louise - Note: do not confuse with Tina Louise
Deanna Lund
David Lynch
Loretta Lynn
Jackie Mason
Jeanette MacDonald
Fred MacMurray
Gerald McRaney [22]
Reba McEntire
Adolphe Menjou
Ethel Merman
Dina Merrill, pro-choice Republican; heiress to fortune as daughter of Marjorie Merriweather Post.
Ann Miller
Dennis Miller [23]
Larry Miller
Yvette Mimieux
Ricardo Montalban
Heidi Montag
Montgomery Gentry, seen in picture with 2008 Republican Presidential Candidate Fred Thompson during campaign stop
Michael Moriarty
Matt Mulhern
Jim Nabors
Craig T. Nelson, Supports McCain for President
Leslie Nielsen
Chelsea Noble
Chuck Norris, donated money in support of incumbent George W. Bush and Republicans 2004. [24], [25]
Hugh O'Brian
Maureen O'Hara
Fess Parker
Louella Parsons
George Peppard
Joe Pesci
Dick Powell
Paula Prentiss,
Laura Prepon
Freddie Prinze, Jr.
Ronald Reagan, ceased voting Democrat in 1952, largely over issue of Communism; changed affiliations officially and later became California Governor and eventually 40th President of the United States
Joan Rivers,
Ginger Rogers, campaigned for Thomas Dewey against fellow Missourian Harry S Truman in 1948
Mickey Rooney
Kurt Russell, libertarian but votes Republican [citation needed]
Jane Russell
Adam Sandler, supported/donated money to Rudy Giuliani for his 2008 presidential campaign. [citation needed]
Jon Secada, anti-Castro Cuban-American
John Schneider
Rick Schroder,
Dwight Schultz
Arnold Schwarzenegger, 38th Governor of California, #4
Tracy Scoggins
Tom Selleck #12
Ron Silver,
Jessica Simpson
Frank Sinatra, long-term Democrat; switched parties late in life
Gary Sinise
Tony Sirico
Yakov Smirnoff
Jaclyn Smith
Kevin Sorbo
Paul Sorvino
Sylvester Stallone
Ben Stein, f
Connie Stevens, appeared at 2000 Republican National Convention
Jimmy Stewart
Shirley Temple, former Ambassador to Ghana
Fred Thompson,
Rip Torn, appeared at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
Travis Tritt
Janine Turner
Hunter Tylo
Vince Vaughn
Jon Voight, seen in picture with 2008 Republican Presidential Candidate Fred Thompson during campaign stop
Sela Ward, hosted fundraiser dinner for John McCain 2008
Denzel Washington, [32]
John Wayne, legendary screen actor and right-wing Republican
Cindy Williams
James Woods,
Jane Wyman
Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
Quote:
The interesting thing about it is the fact that Democrats need people to be dependent on the government,
No we don't need or want people to be dependent upon government, but when the people do need government they should be confident that government will be their when it is needed. A huge difference.
Quote:
If they move up to the middle class they would probably jump parties.
The only problem with that argument is that the Republicans have been moving he middle class into the poor house since Ronald Reagan.
Danny Aiello,
Kim Alexis, pro-life, born-again Christian former model
June Allyson
Gene Autry
Scott Baio, attended President Ronald Reagan's funeral in June 2004
Adam Baldwin, not a "Baldwin brother"
Stephen Baldwin, Republican Baldwin brother and born-again Christian; appeared at the 2004 Republican National Convention [1]
James Belushi
Crystal Bernard
David Blaine
Ward Bond
Pat Boone, appeared at 2000 Republican National Convention
Ernest Borgnine,
Julie Bowen,
Bruce Boxleitner, but wife Melissa Gilbert is a Democrat.
Walter Brennan
Wilford Brimley
Morgan Brittany
Zachary Ty Bryan
Delta Burke, married to Gerald McRaney
James Caan
James Cagney, originally Democrat, became more conservative over the years.
Dean Cain,
Kirk Cameron
Drew Carey
Dixie Carter,
Nancy Cartwright (voice of Bart Simpson)
Emma Caulfield,
James Caviezel
Lacey Chabert, Supports McCain for President
Joan Chen
Dick Clark
Claudette Colbert
Jeff Conaway
Chuck Connors
Mike Connors
Lauren Conrad,
Robert Conrad
Gary Cooper
Lou Costello
Jon Cryer,
Bing Crosby
Charlie Daniels
Robert Davi
Nancy Davis,
Doris Day
Yvonne DeCarlo, Democrat who voted for Ronald Reagan
Bo Derek,
Shannen Doherty, "
Jerry Doyle, #14
Fred Dryer (also football player)
Irene Dunne
Robert Duvall, "
Clint Eastwood
Leslie Easterbrook
Bill Engvall
R. Lee Ermey
Chad Everett
Jinx Falkenburg, Republican activist & fund-raiser
Jamie Farr
Glenn Ford
Jeff Foxworthy
Dennis Franz, [11]
Clark Gable
Eva Gabor
Vincent Gallo, also director
Andy Garcia, actor, director
John Gavin, actor, later Republican political appointee (as envoy to Mexico)
Mel Gibson, [12]
Kelsey Grammer, donated money in support of President Bush and Republicans 2004 [13], [14]
Fred Grandy, also a former congressman from Iowa
Cary Grant
Lee Greenwood, oft-married right-wing singer-songwriter
Tammy Grimes
Sammy Hagar, has been documented giving to Republicans
George Hamilton
Margaret Hamilton
Lionel Hampton
Angie Harmon,
Helen Hayes, attended several Republican National Conventions
Patricia Heaton, Republican due to pro-life position[17],[18]
Charlton Heston,
Catherine Hicks
Hal Holbrook
William Holden
Bob Hope, long-time Republican supporter
Dennis Hopper,
Hedda Hopper
Jonathan Jackson; he and his brother Richard campaigned for George W. Bush [20]
Richard Lee Jackson, he and his brother Jonathan campaigned for George W. Bush [21]
John James, appeared at 1988 Republican National Convention
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, appeared at 2000 Republican National Convention
Al Jolson, campaigned for Calvin Coolidge
Dean Jones
Shirley Jones, appeared at the 1988 Republican National Convention; sang national anthem
Naomi Judd
Yaphet Kotto
Cheryl Ladd, appeared at 1988 Republican National Convention
Larry The Cable Guy
Heather Locklear, "She’s a registered Republican!" - Maxim Magazine"
Anita Louise - Note: do not confuse with Tina Louise
Deanna Lund
David Lynch
Loretta Lynn
Jackie Mason
Jeanette MacDonald
Fred MacMurray
Gerald McRaney [22]
Reba McEntire
Adolphe Menjou
Ethel Merman
Dina Merrill, pro-choice Republican; heiress to fortune as daughter of Marjorie Merriweather Post.
Ann Miller
Dennis Miller [23]
Larry Miller
Yvette Mimieux
Ricardo Montalban
Heidi Montag
Montgomery Gentry, seen in picture with 2008 Republican Presidential Candidate Fred Thompson during campaign stop
Michael Moriarty
Matt Mulhern
Jim Nabors
Craig T. Nelson, Supports McCain for President
Leslie Nielsen
Chelsea Noble
Chuck Norris, donated money in support of incumbent George W. Bush and Republicans 2004. [24], [25]
Hugh O'Brian
Maureen O'Hara
Fess Parker
Louella Parsons
George Peppard
Joe Pesci
Dick Powell
Paula Prentiss,
Laura Prepon
Freddie Prinze, Jr.
Ronald Reagan, ceased voting Democrat in 1952, largely over issue of Communism; changed affiliations officially and later became California Governor and eventually 40th President of the United States
Joan Rivers,
Ginger Rogers, campaigned for Thomas Dewey against fellow Missourian Harry S Truman in 1948
Mickey Rooney
Kurt Russell, libertarian but votes Republican [citation needed]
Jane Russell
Adam Sandler, supported/donated money to Rudy Giuliani for his 2008 presidential campaign. [citation needed]
Jon Secada, anti-Castro Cuban-American
John Schneider
Rick Schroder,
Dwight Schultz
Arnold Schwarzenegger, 38th Governor of California, #4
Tracy Scoggins
Tom Selleck #12
Ron Silver,
Jessica Simpson
Frank Sinatra, long-term Democrat; switched parties late in life
Gary Sinise
Tony Sirico
Yakov Smirnoff
Jaclyn Smith
Kevin Sorbo
Paul Sorvino
Sylvester Stallone
Ben Stein, f
Connie Stevens, appeared at 2000 Republican National Convention
Jimmy Stewart
Shirley Temple, former Ambassador to Ghana
Fred Thompson,
Rip Torn, appeared at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
Travis Tritt
Janine Turner
Hunter Tylo
Vince Vaughn
Jon Voight, seen in picture with 2008 Republican Presidential Candidate Fred Thompson during campaign stop
Sela Ward, hosted fundraiser dinner for John McCain 2008
Denzel Washington, [32]
John Wayne, legendary screen actor and right-wing Republican
Cindy Williams
James Woods,
Jane Wyman
Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
No we don't need or want people to be dependent upon government, but when the people do need government they should be confident that government will be their when it is needed. A huge difference.
The only problem with that argument is that the Republicans have been moving he middle class into the poor house since Ronald Reagan.
Seems like a lot of people are claiming to be Fiscal Conservatives but I haven't heard anything about fiscal conservatism over the last 8 years so when did this fad begin?
When Odumbo signed his trillion dollar spending bill before submitting his four trillion dollar budget. Ted Kennedy is a fiscal conservative compared to Odumbo. Any other questions?
Neither side is fiscal in any way or form. Democrats spend large sums of money on social programs while Republicans spend it on military. The U.S. government is never going to decrease in size whether people like it or not. It is the goal of any organization/living organism to make itself bigger as time goes on.
Seems like a lot of people are claiming to be Fiscal Conservatives but I haven't heard anything about fiscal conservatism over the last 8 years so when did this fad begin?
Because during the Bush administration there was no place for fiscal conservatives. Many fiscal conservatives, such as myself, did not support President Bush and his big spending policies.
What is important is not how much is spent. What is important is how the money is obtained and where it is spent. Democrats want to tax the wealthier and spend the money on things like infrastructure, schools and health care that benefits nearly everyone. This is fiscally conservative by not incurring debt and socially liberal. Republicans want to borrow the money from the wealthier in the form of tax free bonds (mostly) and spend it on companies owned by their rich contributors. This is fiscally liberal by borrowing instead of taxing and socially conservative because if sends the money right back to the lenders in the form of business profits. Under the Democrats most of the country benefits from government spending. Under the Republicans only the wealthy really gain from the government.
Well, Reagan comes to mind as closest, and probably would have been a great example had he not blown so much money on the military..
LOL.
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Originally Posted by Marodi
Ironically, I'd say Clinton. Only president in modern times to gave a budget surplus.
Coincidentally, his Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, to reduce the deficit, passed without a single vote from the Grand Obstructionist Party.
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