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View Poll Results: Who will go Blue first?
NC 41 33.61%
VA 66 54.10%
TN 5 4.10%
GA 10 8.20%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2007, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Southern Democrats are rare these days. Most Southern Dems have switched to Republicans.

People say Virginia has elected a Democratic Governer, so it must be going blue.

But people forget, Virginia's large black population almost always votes Democrat.

Not to mention, when there' s a Republican in the White House, some conservative states vote a Democrat as Governer.

During the Clinton years, Virginia elected 2 very conservative Republicans as Governer- Gilmore and Allen.
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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Southern Democrats are rare these days. Most Southern Dems have switched to Republicans.

People say Virginia has elected a Democratic Governer, so it must be going blue.

But people forget, Virginia's large black population almost always votes Democrat.

Not to mention, when there' s a Republican in the White House, some conservative states vote a Democrat as Governer.

During the Clinton years, Virginia elected 2 very conservative Republicans as Governer- Gilmore and Allen.


Yes, and I wouldnt consider Webb a liberal either, I believe his main difference to Allen was the Iraq War....
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:25 PM
 
Location: NC
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I don't really have a preference. I'll admit that I'm a Liberal myself (much to the forum's chagrin, I'm sure), so seeing Scranton progressing to being a more Liberal city as the NYC/NJ influence continues to push its way onto us is comforting to me. Nevertheless, my best friend and I were both born on the same day in the same hospital. We both registered to vote and cast our ballots on our 18th birthday, which happened to be election day of 2004. I voted for Kerry; he voted for Bush. We both have political aspirations for our futures. He's a staunch God-fearing Republican, and I'm a bleeding heart Liberal Democrat. Nevertheless, we respect each other's differences; he doesn't have a problem with me being gay, and I don't have a problem with him forcing his moral philosophies on others. We're in a symbiotic friendship I suppose.

I think it all boils down to general "perceptions." Most Republicans picture Democrats as being people who prance around hugging trees, kissing members of the same-sex, raising taxes, and letting terrorists and illegal immigrants enter and rule our nation. Most Democrats picture Republicans as being gun-toting, racist, rural rednecks. Is either perspective accurate? Of course not. However, having these stereotypes ingrained in our heads has made it quite difficult to fully respect "the other side."
That was very well said and I feel the same way. What's wrong with agreeing to disagree? I try my best not to think or talk political, even in this area. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't think Charlotte specifically is becoming any more liberal than it is (although NC probably is becoming a little more liberal as people are flying to Asheville, Chapel Hill-Carrboro, Durham, and the liberal pockets in Charlotte proper). I think a lot of people are moving here to embrace the conservative feel that the area has (because this part of NC is conservative), and there's nothing wrong with that. At one point, I wanted to move up north so I would fit in a little more in terms of my views, but there's something cool about all people. Even if that means they're saying something we don't want to hear and in our heads we're cursing them out for what they're worth. Let's just live and let live. Scranton, you're getting a rep point for this post, by the way...I've been really generous lately!
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:33 PM
 
Location: NC
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Oops, I got so busy trying to yelp about equality and agreeing to disagree, I forgot to vote! I would say that NC may become purple and VA may become purple or blue...I know as vasinger said, the rest of VA is really conservative, but NoVA is taking over Virginia...at least that's what it looks like on a map. Where does NoVA technically begin on 95? Stafford, Spotsylvania, or Prince William County?
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Oops, I got so busy trying to yelp about equality and agreeing to disagree, I forgot to vote! I would say that NC may become purple and VA may become purple or blue...I know as vasinger said, the rest of VA is really conservative, but NoVA is taking over Virginia...at least that's what it looks like on a map. Where does NoVA technically begin on 95? Stafford, Spotsylvania, or Prince William County?
i think in fredericksburgh these days...
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:15 PM
 
Location: NC
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i think in fredericksburgh these days...
Gotcha. Thanks!
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Why stop at Fredericksburg? The DC Metro area is getting so big now, it will reach Raleigh, NC before long.
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Old 03-24-2007, 12:00 AM
 
Location: NC
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Why stop at Fredericksburg? The DC Metro area is getting so big now, it will reach Raleigh, NC before long.
lol, I think the entire East Coast will be a big city in some years. There might be some trouble in South Carolina. I hear the state isn't very big on annexation. Here in NC, that's a whole different ballgame...Charlotte is a big-time example of a city that started eating a bunch of Krispy Kreme donuts and just got out of control.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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VA will never go entirely blue, but I think it will go purple. In order to become a truly blue state, you either need to a) have a large, far-left city or b) be Vermont. Richmond might be far-left because of the black population (not familiar enough with the area to know) but it's only a small city. VA is slowly becoming dominated by suburban voters, a purple voting block (even suburban voters from the Northeast typically vote purple, not blue). Like an earlier poster said, suburban voters tend to support the conservative positions of lower taxes and less regulation, while also supporting liberal positions on social issues.

The interesting phenomenon here is the gradual erosion of Virginia's "Southern values," especially in NoVa due to the progressive social views of the Northern transplants. Virginia is merely across the river from uber-liberal Maryland, so it's bound to happen.
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Old 03-30-2007, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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I believe BOTH the Repulican and Democratic parties have done us incredible wrong, are irreversibly corrupt, and are not worth considering any more. I think it is past time for the country to go with higher morals and values. I am talking about THIS:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/
and this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constit...ited_States%29

Bud
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