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Old 03-09-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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In addition to signing an executive order overturning the ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, President Obama also signed a presidential memorandum, which administration officials claim will be "aimed at insulating scientific decisions across the federal government from political influence"...Geez, what a concept, policy based on science instead of fundie superstition.

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President Obama signed an executive order Monday repealing a Bush-era policy that limited federal tax dollars for embryonic stem cell research.

Obama's move overturns an order signed by President Bush in 2001 that barred the National Institutes of Health from funding research on embryonic stem cells beyond using 60 cell lines that existed at that time.

Obama also signed a presidential memorandum establishing greater independence for federal science policies and programs.

"In recent years, when it comes to stem cell research, rather than furthering discovery, our government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values," Obama said at the White House.

"In this case, I believe the two are not inconsistent. As a person of faith, I believe we are called to care for each other and work to ease human suffering. I believe we have been given the capacity and will to pursue this research -- and the humanity and conscience to do so responsibly."
Obama overturns Bush policy on stem cells - CNN.com
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Old 03-09-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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Best day since Inauguration Day.

Thanks for starting the thread.

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Old 03-09-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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Puuuleeezzzeee

The same "enlightened" libs are currently having a bed-wetting hissy-fit over Alaska's aerial predator control pogram even though that was developed by "scientists" as well, just because a certain female governor supports it. The Libs pick-and-choose which "scientists" to believe based on political motives just like all the rest.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Puuuleeezzzeee

The same "enlightened" libs are currently having a bed-wetting hissy-fit over Alaska's aerial predator control pogram even though that was developed by "scientists" as well, just because a certain female governor supports it. The Libs pick-and-choose which "scientists" to believe based on political motives just like all the rest.
Does the aerial predator program have the possibility of curing cancer? diabetes? paralysis? Alzheimers? MS?

Or does it just leave more caribou for hunters to gun down?
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Stem cell research was never "banned." It just wasn't funded by the taxpayer's dollars. Now it is. Just one more thing for you to pay for.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Ariel "predator" control is a lot more fun when the predators have surface to air heat seeking missiles. Hunting is far more exciting when the game can shoot back.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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Does the aerial predator program have the possibility of curing cancer? diabetes? paralysis? Alzheimers? MS?

Or does it just leave more caribou for hunters to gun down?
Hunters...as in subsistence families who depend on game to feed themselves. In other words it improves the human condition, just like "curing cancer? diabetes? paralysis? Alzheimers? MS?". Funny how, in the eyes of some, certain humans are more worthy than others, depending on which side of the political spectrum they are percieved to be on.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Stem cell research was never "banned." It just wasn't funded by the taxpayer's dollars. Now it is. Just one more thing for you to pay for.
Exactly.

Obama has the fiscal responsibilty of a thug with three kids by three different mothers driving a new Escalade.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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Exactly.

Obama has the fiscal responsibilty of a thug with three kids by three different mothers driving a new Escalade.
And if it provides aid and cures to people with these diseases...it saves EVERYONE money!
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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I guess Obama figured that most charities that would fund such research would suffer from his "tax increase", he would just let the government pay for research instead. I can't really say I support this or am against it, because I would like more info on it. My question is, are the embryos that are used from aborted babies or are they grown in the labs? If they are taken from aborted babies, I would have to agree with this practice since the aborted fetus would be discarded so why not use them for some benefit. OTOH if the embryos are created in a lab then I disagree, since it IMO is just murder.
I do think there should be a timetable placed on this research funding. If after say 5 or 10 years there have been no positive advances in the research then the government should stop funding.
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