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Who gets to decide who is "the best performers" on a job? Certainly not the managers I hope because I have seen some pretty damn **** poor employees become pretty damn **** poor managers.
Yes, of course the managers. Because they MANAGE. That is their job. They've been hired to manage by the guys with the money to pay everyone. So those guys get to make the rules for their company & the money the pay their employees. Somehow you think a blanket policy that has nothing to do with actual job performance, written by people who have never stepped into that company's building, should be there instead of the managers who know who does what & how well they do it?
And who determines what theyre worth? The capitalist? Some would say the price of any product is raw materials+labor value. That would mean that, if a company makes any "profit", it is because labor value is stolen. Therefore, the employees are actually UNDERPAID for what they are doing.
Your missing land, capital and entrepreneurship. The most important of these is entrepreneurship. If you feel capitalism is unfair to workers, don't be a worker. Start a business of your own and when it is successful make sure your otherwise happy and productive employees unionize. Then see how well your business is able to compete. It's always OK to hitch your wagon to someone else's entrepreneurship, Right?
Start a business of your own and when it is successful make sure your otherwise happy and productive employees unionize. Then see how well your business is able to compete. It's always OK to hitch your wagon to someone else's entrepreneurship, Right?
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Some would say the price of any product is raw materials+labor value. That would mean that, if a company makes any "profit", it is because labor value is stolen.
What this person also completely ignores is risk. There is a risk in opening any new business venture--the risk of failure, the risk of tying one's credit to a failing enterprise, the risk of losing the investment of one's time and finances--both start-up and reinvestment. This is an added cost without a tangible pricetag, but it's obviously one so great very few people actually seek to purchase it.
Until someone has experienced this sort of personal investment in a company, they really have no clue to the extent of what goes into creating a company and investing in it.
Labor value is stolen? No, labor value is contracted, and the labor enters that contractual relationship with the freedom to leave on a whim.
Unions still remain the greatest anti -poverty program ever invented. They, along with the G.I. Bill, the new deal, and progressive legislation, created the middle class in this county. Republicans are out to destroy it.
So is that why non-unionized states like Tennesse, Mississippi, Alabama, and the like are picking up foreign autoworkers who are kicking Detroit's keister?
Anti-poverty? There would be a lot more jobs to go around and likely much more room for success if these unions hadn't hijacked and yolked what was once a thriving American industry.
Well, no doubt you're a buyer into the idea of survival of the fittest. Off with Detroit; in with the south.
Wouldn't it be a better policy to offer overtime to the best performers at the job? That way you get the best possible performance, and you reward those who give it to you.
I would imagine that most if not all workers can adequatly perform the job.
We are talking about a union shop which has rules based on fairness, seniority and equality--which are based on civil law and various other covenants.
As far as performance exactly who determines who the best performers are--and why. Could the choice be in the eye of the beholder? Some other factor?
We are speaking of employment related matters--not an NFL game. Not a burn out effort as in high competitive pursuits but in long term real jobs. (The average seniority in my profession is 19 yrs.)
Does the performance of management merit scrutiny or is it reasonable to be paid many times what the average worker earns without accountability but to some bottom line. Maybe we should put cages in the management suites and make 'em compete like gerbels--the ones that can't perform fall off the track and are replaced by a foreign manager with a brain that will perform very well for only four times what the average worker earns--and throws the gerbel cage the H out.
If more Americans belonged to unions, we'd all have higher standard of living as we did back in the fifties when around 50% of workers belonged to unions. Of course that was before the greedy business types decided to ship jobs out of this country and were aided and abetted by Republicans who have given them tax breaks to do it. All part of the Republican's war on the middle and working class.
Unions still remain the greatest anti -poverty program ever invented. They, along with the G.I. Bill, the new deal, and progressive legislation, created the middle class in this county. Republicans are out to destroy it.
Thank you for your post. The stats. prove your points.
Rep for you.
So is that why non-unionized states like Tennesse, Mississippi, Alabama, and the like are picking up foreign autoworkers who are kicking Detroit's keister?
Anti-poverty? There would be a lot more jobs to go around and likely much more room for success if these unions hadn't hijacked and yolked what was once a thriving American industry.
Well, no doubt you're a buyer into the idea of survival of the fittest. Off with Detroit; in with the south.
Those states you mention have unions--whether they are 'right to work' states or not. More union activity will occur.
As far as foreign workers-they had better be legal. New legislation and enforcement will be in place. Perhaps foreign management like some companies already have will prove to be a 'correction'.
The unions never highjacked or yolked that industry-- labor got what the industry agree upon. Many union consessions were made.
A check of the industries records and their management choices have been cited and have been made available by the US Gov't. Those begging for help have been questioned and many don't agree with the aid they are getting, and it has to do with matters other than the union.
Thank you for your post. The stats. prove your points.
Rep for you.
The person you repped was blowing smoke up your rear. Higher unemployment does not raise the standard of living. That is the price we pay with Unions. If you don't believe me ask a non partisan economist. The reason companies are shipping production jobs to China is because they can't compete with the Chinese. If you want more manufacturing jobs to remain in America then encourage people to buy new higher priced goods made in America. That's the only way unionized production could ever hope to compete against China. That's also not gonna happen.
The person you repped was blowing smoke up your rear. Higher unemployment does not raise the standard of living. That is the price we pay with Unions. If you don't believe me ask a non partisan economist. The reason companies are shipping production jobs to China is because they can't compete with the Chinese. If you want more manufacturing jobs to remain in America then encourage people to buy new higher priced goods made in America. That's the only way unionized production could ever hope to compete against China. That's also not gonna happen.
I agree with you, except that unions have nothing to do with offshoring to China. No American worker can compete with Chinese labor, unionized or not.
Something's going to have to give, sooner or later. Firing an employee to hire a cheaper employee is one thing, but when the people you're firing are also your customers, eventually your customers won't be able to support your business. This may be a lucrative strategy in the short term, but it can spell only the company's doom in the long term.
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