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Old 03-18-2009, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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What people don't realize is how chaotic a situation like this would get. An isolated scenario like Waco pales in comparison. The Feds are armed well, sure. But they have humans driving these awesome mechanized vehicles. Humans that have throughout history defected towards the rebellion when the SHTF and see their own citizens dying at the hands of empty suits in their cozy chairs. They also have a less nimble centralized command that is fiscally broke. If the currency collapses, these soldiers will need to be paid, and there's plenty of gold in the rebellion camp versus worthless paper fiat money. Look up in history books what side the French soldiers were on when peasants stormed the palace to capture the King and Queen. The soldiers either turned their backs or actually helped out the peasants.
You live in La La land.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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You live in La La land.
LOL Yeah I'm sure the full military will be behind the obomination when he makes them pay for their own medical treatment of combat injuries.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Yeah it all available. ATF was involved in the final assault. And the Davidians started the fires. The Davidian leaders were convicted by a jury of their peers.

This is a model of what will happen to fringe groups who take up arms against the United States.
The BATF was involved in the final assault?Proof please

As to the Davidians starting the fires,are you relying upon the fedgov. for your proof?

Convicted for murdering the BATF agents???
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Why don't you libertarians and republicans just get some real leadership and try and win some elections?
They are getting leadership and operating on a local level. Too many empty suits on the national level to get anything done there.

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There's a thought. In America, the majority rules
So America is a mob?

In America, the Constitution supersedes the wishes of the majority. Always has. States will leave the union if the central government no long believes this to be the case.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Oh, for heaven's sake, could these states stop the useless chatter and secede already? There isn't a single one of them that would survive as a sovereign nation anyway. And even that assumes that their secession would take place peacefully. You want out? OK--don't let the door hit you from behind. But don't whine about any consequences of your actions.
From your lips to gods ears! I think we should be more worried about the consequences of what the government is currently doing don't you? They sure aren't!
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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They are getting leadership and operating on a local level. Too many empty suits on the national level to get anything done there.



So America is a mob?

In America, the Constitution supersedes the wishes of the majority. Always has. States will leave the union if the central government no long believes this to be the case.
Who are these leaders? Why haven't I heard from any of them? And Democracy is a mob mentality????

democracy
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pure democracy

social democracy

Tory Democracy




Main Entry: de·moc·ra·cy
Pronunciation: \di-ˈmä-krə-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural de·moc·ra·cies
Etymology: Middle French democratie, from Late Latin democratia, from Greek dēmokratia, from dēmos + -kratia -cracy
Date: 1576
1 a: government by the people ; especially : rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2: a political unit that has a democratic government
3capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States <from emancipation Republicanism to New Deal Democracy — C. M. Roberts>
4: the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5: the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:41 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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You live in La La land.
rlchurch, may I ask what part of the government you work in? You don't have to be specific if you don't want to.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This nation is not a democracy.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:44 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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rlchurch, may I ask what part of the government you work in? You don't have to be specific if you don't want to.
FOr some reason my mind wanders to this...COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum. (Trolling 101)
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The BATF was involved in the final assault?Proof please
Your own statement -- It's all out there. Look it up.

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As to the Davidians starting the fires,are you relying upon the fedgov. for your proof?
Yes

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Convicted for murdering the BATF agents???
Manslaughter was the charge.
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