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No apologies necessary. I'm just a seeker of truth, like you. And right now the truth seems to contain some pretty unflattering evidence about our nation's managerial class.
The one thing Obama has really let us down on is not taking harder after the rich who continue to rob us blind and steal our country. He promised higher taxes and more regulation on the rich and has yet to deliver on either. Instead the rich are continuing right on with their robbery and theft from the working people just like they did under the Republicans.
How long are we going to put up with this crap? Until we all live under bridges while the rich we serve all live in Buckhead mansions? When are we going to stand up and say enough is enough and DEMAND the government go after the rich and rob them for a change?
Well who are the rich? Bill Gates? Certainly he is, and he rightfully is so by his business. Fortune 500's? Rich but not super rich.
So who are the super rich you never hear about (and if they have it their way you never will) Ahh those who would be the descendants of those who started the Federal Reserve and the "other" central banks around the world. They make direct decisions that affect all of us around the world. They would be the ones who have hijacked ours and other nations through the back door. The ones who love nothing more than constitutional weakener laws enacted and just rip the "damn" thing up. The ones who would love nothing more than to "collapse" our system and start another with total control, federal control, and as this system collapses have you beg for a new system that will ultimately take any and all freedoms left away.
AIG and the "other" news is not news at all, it is a distraction. A distraction while trillions of numbers get thrown into the system eventually making the $ in your pocket become worthless until the whole house of cards come tumbling down. They hijacked the news and media long ago-
Know Thy Enemy...stop chasing your tail while the crooks are printing inside at will...
The one thing Obama has really let us down on is not taking harder after the rich who continue to rob us blind and steal our country. He promised higher taxes and more regulation on the rich and has yet to deliver on either. Instead the rich are continuing right on with their robbery and theft from the working people just like they did under the Republicans.
How long are we going to put up with this crap? Until we all live under bridges while the rich we serve all live in Buckhead mansions? When are we going to stand up and say enough is enough and DEMAND the government go after the rich and rob them for a change?
No wonder Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn) went wobbly last week when asked about his February amendment ratifying hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses to executives at insurance giant AIG. Dodd has been one of the company’s favorite recipients of campaign contributions. But it turns out that Senator Dodd’s wife has also benefited from past connections to AIG as well.
Ya know, you can pull yer head out anytime.
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No apologies necessary. I'm just a seeker of truth, like you. And right now the truth seems to contain some pretty unflattering evidence about our nation's managerial class.
Actually, what I meant to say is that if you tax the rich to oblivion, they can opt out of America by either retiring or moving abroad to a country with fewer regulations. I'm pretty much the furthest thing from a class warfare minion.
The one thing Obama has really let us down on is not taking harder after the rich who continue to rob us blind and steal our country. He promised higher taxes and more regulation on the rich and has yet to deliver on either. Instead the rich are continuing right on with their robbery and theft from the working people just like they did under the Republicans.
How long are we going to put up with this crap? Until we all live under bridges while the rich we serve all live in Buckhead mansions? When are we going to stand up and say enough is enough and DEMAND the government go after the rich and rob them for a change?
I do kind of wonder when the tent city people in California (no job, no money, no credit) are going to start shooting the Wall Street crowd. I don't advocate or agree with it, but I do wonder what's stopping them.
I do kind of wonder when the tent city people in California (no job, no money, no credit) are going to start shooting the Wall Street crowd. I don't advocate or agree with it, but I do wonder what's stopping them.
Hopefully some shread of morality.
I honestly can't believe someone would post something that sick.
Hopefully some shread of morality.
I honestly can't believe someone would post something that sick.
What do you mean? I simply said that I couldn't believe that these desperate people hadn't gotten to that point. I specifically said that I didn't agree with it.
Caveat - fomenting rage at the "rich" is a common tactic of socialist / communist pirates, who elevate the vice of envy into a virtue.
Socialists are pirates. That's why they feel justified in stealing other people's property, via confiscatory taxation. I have yet to meet a socialist who was willing to donate all his own time and treasure to the "masses". Socialists want to spend "other people's money" for the "greater good" (their own enrichment).
From the Communist manifesto: "In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
Amendment V, US Constitution 1789 ... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - Webster's Dictionary
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by individuals and operated for their individual profit.
Anything else is NOT capitalism, including usury (which likes to call its nefarious scheme "capitalizing") and limited liability artificial persons (stock corporations).
"OWNERSHIP - ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. "
- - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
"ESTATE - The degree, quantity, nature and extent of interest which a person has in real and personal property. An estate in lands, tenements, and hereditaments signifies such interest as the tenant has therein."
- - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.547
INTEREST - ...More particularly it means a right to have the advantage of accruing from anything ; any right in the nature of property, but less than title.
- - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 812
LAND. ... The land is one thing, and the ESTATE in land is another thing, for an ESTATE in land is a time in land or land for a time.
- - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.877
Since American law clearly protects private property (absolutely owned) and socialism abolishes it, and replaces it with qualified ownership (estate), one may argue that the U.S.A. is anti-Socialist. However, since 1935, the U.S.A. has been Socialist, via voluntary participation in national socialism via FICA / Social Security. There is no law compelling participation nor punishing those who do not participate. It is 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude. If it was mandatory, it would be unconstitutional involuntary servitude.
Everyone who enrolls, is issued a number, and is levied taxes for practically everything. And is required to register their property as estate, subject to and object of the government.
COMMUNISM - the ownership of property, or means of production, distribution and supply, by the whole of a classless society, with wealth shared on the principle of 'to each according to his need', each yielding fully 'according to his ability'.
- - - Webster's Dictionary.
SOCIALISM - A political and economic theory advocating collective ownership of the means of production and control of distribution. It is based upon the belief that all, while contributing to the good of the community, are equally entitled to the care and protection which the community can provide.
--- Webster's dictionary
The joke is that due to ignorance of socialism, the problems created by socialism are blamed upon non-existent capitalism. Their solution? Impose MORE SOCIALISM!
Just say "NO!" to socialism - before it's too late.
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I would prefer the latter. Let them go to Canada or Europe and see how long those folks put up with their criminality.
They also pay most of the taxes in this country so if they leave, then the middle class will be left with the tax bill.
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