Interracial Relationships (compared, parties, support, problems)

[FilmCutter]

[quote=Michigan_Man;522266]Ok i'll give this a try lol. I don't want to generalize all white women because I've known many that are decent I just wouldn't date them because as a whole they all seem shallow and unapproachable.

I've heard Black men say the same thing about Black women, that we are cool and unapproachable. I'm just curious, what is an "approachable" woman? I really like this Asian guy at my school, but I don't know how to let him know without coming off like I'm pushy or something. Could it be that some women seem unapproachable because they are waiting for the man to make the first move? I would love to hear feedback from a man's perspective. Maybe we're putting too much pressure on you to be the one who makes the first move.

[YapCity]

[quote=FilmCutter;526948]

Originally Posted by Michigan_Man

Ok i'll give this a try lol. I don't want to generalize all white women because I've known many that are decent I just wouldn't date them because as a whole they all seem shallow and unapproachable.

I've heard Black men say the same thing about Black women, that we are cool and unapproachable. I'm just curious, what is an "approachable" woman? I really like this Asian guy at my school, but I don't know how to let him know without coming off like I'm pushy or something. Could it be that some women seem unapproachable because they are waiting for the man to make the first move? I would love to hear feedback from a man's perspective. Maybe we're putting too much pressure on you to be the one who makes the first move.

Most men are absolutely clueless when it comes to signals from women.

Just talk to him a few times, do the hair flip thing, laugh when he says something even remotely funny, and make excuses to touch him.

These basic, stereotypical cues just about any man can figure out.

~T


.....and if that fails, there's always Victoria's Secret lingerie and a trench coat

[FilmCutter]

[quote=YapCity;526982]

Originally Posted by FilmCutter

Most men are absolutely clueless when it comes to signals from women.

Just talk to him a few times, do the hair flip thing, laugh when he says something even remotely funny, and make excuses to touch him.

These basic, stereotypical cues just about any man can figure out.

~T


.....and if that fails, there's always Victoria's Secret lingerie and a trench coat

I think I did the hair flip and laughing thing. I don't think I can wear lingerie to school, but the trench coat might just work... Thanks! LOL! I need more excuses to touch him, though. I'll work on that.

[Amaznjohn]

What is this, Ask Dr. Phil?

[YapCity]

Originally Posted by FilmCutter

I think I did the hair flip and laughing thing. I don't think I can wear lingerie to school, but the trench coat might just work... Thanks! LOL! I need more excuses to touch him, though. I'll work on that.

Funny story.

I was recently talking to a woman while waiting around for something.

After we were talking for about 20 minutes, she all of a sudden changed.

Hair flips, laughter, the whole nine.

It was REALLY obvious. I wasn't interested though, not in the least. She was gorgeous, but still not a very interesting person IMO. The kind of person one probably could not tolerate once breakfast was finished. She was just "there", and in the interest of being polite it made sense to talk given the wait. Besides, I'm not looking.

I felt like saying...

"Sweetheart you can crack that hair at me all you like but I'm still not going to ask you out" lol. It got so bad I thought she was trying to shake out some loose change for the soda machine.

Not everyone is compatible, and not everyone is looking for a date. If he doesn't respond, I wouldn't worry about it. NEXT!

~T

[Tone509]

Originally Posted by Michigan_Man

Ok i'll give this a try lol. I don't want to generalize all white women because I've known many that are decent I just wouldn't date them because as a whole they all seem shallow and unapproachable. Of course when a guy like me likes women of different races and starts getting involved with them they all of a sudden get furious and jealous that we could think that women of different races can be more attractive in are eyes both physically and mentally.

One thing I really don't like is when they (white women) start trashing them and saying all kinds of crap like they're promiscuous, they only want you for the green card, etc. Again thats the jealousy thing and its actually pretty sad when you think about it. LOL thats my 2 cents, I'm not much for details but there you have it

I find your take on this fascinating because as a black man who dates interracially, I often receive similar reactions from black women. I've yet to hear the "green card" complaint, though. Perhaps I should have dated more internationals. (I'm happily committed now.)

[Martin Karadagian]

Originally Posted by PrettyHateMachine

Asian female/white male
Let's start with the most common interracial relationship. Asian women marry outside their race at far greater rates than any other racial group, the most frequent being the Asian female/white male combination. Is it a socioeconomic status?, or a manufactured desire? Many Asian women don't find Asian men attractive. Could it be the negative stereotypes and images of Asian males in the media that have had a real impact on the dating choices of Asians?

According to some, the process starts as soon as you’re born. Asians already come from countries that have been dominated by white people, such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan. Against this backdrop, you’re exposed to media garbage and Hollywood productions like the Last Samurai where the white guy, Tom Cruise, is the hero.



Interracial couples are more noticeable and prominent than ever. Good or bad? Your thoughts, personal experience, etc..

I'm going to go against the grain a bit here. I do see an often overlooked problem, which is basically the first scenario I quoted. First off, for what it's worth, I'm a white male.

As far as the process starting at birth because of white dominance in the homeland, I think there's truth to that. However, one can say that about Africa and to some degree Latin America as well. But historically, with Africa and Latin America, there was never the "white savior" or "white liberator" phenomenon that existed in parts of Asia. In Africa, the 'western' heroes are generally African Americans (Muhammad Ali etc.). In Mexico, we have the historical issue of land seizure. However, in some Asian countries, we either liberated them from another Asian country, or we helped re-developed a country we wounded. The white savior mentality still exists today. To many Asian females, dating a white male is an inroad into white society which has been imbedded into their minds as the ideal society to belong to. The Asian female is very similar to the tragic mulatto of the late 19th/early 20th Century. They both, as a result of being seen as exotic to the white male, were/are given better opportunity to assimilate into Whitedom. The difference is, the tragic mulatto had inner-turmoil whereas the Asian female generally accepts it all as rightful privilege.

The media portrayal of Asian males is absolutely correct. We're talking years of white media manipulation emasculating the Asian male. In U.S. History, before the TV and the movies, we had the Chinese railroad workers who were not allowed to bring their wives. And they certainly weren't allowed to touch a white woman. So, basically, they were not allowed to have heterosexual activity. Kudos to them. I've never heard anything pertaining to buggery during this time. If it existed on a large scale, I'm sure we would of heard a lot about it in our feminizing of the Asian male that we are also guilty of.

We're mixed up into thinking that the problem when dealing with the AF/WM pairing issue is the Angry Asian Male. So phrases continue to arise like "who cares who dates who", and my favorite "It's the 21st Century, come on now". That's the problem, it's the 21st Century, and the emasculating and media stereotypes haven't improved one bit. The U.S. is bad, but there's a bit more subtleness or carefulness in our Televised media (not radio), but the U.K. is worse. British comedy to this day will use phrases like "***", and "Ching Chong Chinaman".

The damage has been done. Many white males are infatuated with Asian females which also has something to do with more media exposure. Many Asian females won't consider an Asian male. Obviously one cannot expect someone to give up their preference. But what about the kids? The general response will be that they will tell their daughter to marry whoever they want. But this will more than likely just lead to the daughter being just like the mother.

What about responsibility in battling racial stereotype in the media? Striving to give children an equalized option of choosing without negative racial stereotype to dictate their choice?

[YapCity]

Originally Posted by Martin Karadagian

I'm going to go against the grain a bit here. I do see an often overlooked problem, which is basically the first scenario I quoted. First off, for what it's worth, I'm a white male.

As far as the process starting at birth because of white dominance in the homeland, I think there's truth to that. However, one can say that about Africa and to some degree Latin America as well. But historically, with Africa and Latin America, there was never the "white savior" or "white liberator" phenomenon that existed in parts of Asia. In Africa, the 'western' heroes are generally African Americans (Muhammad Ali etc.). In Mexico, we have the historical issue of land seizure. However, in some Asian countries, we either liberated them from another Asian country, or we helped re-developed a country we wounded. The white savior mentality still exists today. To many Asian females, dating a white male is an inroad into white society which has been imbedded into their minds as the ideal society to belong to. The Asian female is very similar to the tragic mulatto of the late 19th/early 20th Century. They both, as a result of being seen as exotic to the white male, were/are given better opportunity to assimilate into Whitedom. The difference is, the tragic mulatto had inner-turmoil whereas the Asian female generally accepts it all as rightful privilege.

The media portrayal of Asian males is absolutely correct. We're talking years of white media manipulation emasculating the Asian male. In U.S. History, before the TV and the movies, we had the Chinese railroad workers who were not allowed to bring their wives. And they certainly weren't allowed to touch a white woman. So, basically, they were not allowed to have heterosexual activity. Kudos to them. I've never heard anything pertaining to buggery during this time. If it existed on a large scale, I'm sure we would of heard a lot about it in our feminizing of the Asian male that we are also guilty of.

We're mixed up into thinking that the problem when dealing with the AF/WM pairing issue is the Angry Asian Male. So phrases continue to arise like "who cares who dates who", and my favorite "It's the 21st Century, come on now". That's the problem, it's the 21st Century, and the emasculating and media stereotypes haven't improved one bit. The U.S. is bad, but there's a bit more subtleness or carefulness in our Televised media (not radio), but the U.K. is worse. British comedy to this day will use phrases like "***", and "Ching Chong Chinaman".

The damage has been done. Many white males are infatuated with Asian females which also has something to do with more media exposure. Many Asian females won't consider an Asian male. Obviously one cannot expect someone to give up their preference. But what about the kids? The general response will be that they will tell their daughter to marry whoever they want. But this will more than likely just lead to the daughter being just like the mother.

What about responsibility in battling racial stereotype in the media? Striving to give children an equalized option of choosing without negative racial stereotype to dictate their choice?

You read WAY too much into it, lol.

I give Asian women the same requirements I do any other race.

1. Face.
2. Breasts
3. Waist
4. Ass
5. Personality
6. Intelligence

Basically in that order, but 4 and 1 are interchangeable depending on which way she's walking.

Now, I find FOREIGN women in general to be more interesting. Not necessarily women of a different race, more so from a different country or background. For instance, I would be MUCH more attracted to an Italian woman who came over from Italy 5 years ago than I would one from Massapequa Long Island.

The media didn't decide that for me. I would just rather be interested in what my mate has to say.

An American woman yammering on about things related to our consumer and media saturated society bores the living crap out of me. Either that, or you get the pretentious types who do nothing but quote books and articles to you. Worse than that, the philosophers who do nothing but discuss outlandish nonsense for hours on end.

Nope, I'd rather hear about how life was growing up in Istanbul. That's just me though.


~T

[PrettyHateMachine]

LOL! you're a trip Yap.

But I'd have to disagree with you about Martin Karadagian reading too much into it. I think he's right on target. I have a female Asian friend who's mother says if she won't marry a Chinese man, then she would rather her marry a white man. Absolutely no exceptions. And God forbid an Hispanic or Black. She says most of her friends parents also feel the same way.

Since interracial relationships has offered black, Hispanic men and Asian women new opportunities for finding mates among whites, while exposing Asian men and black women to new competition from whites, maybe Asian men and black women should start considering each other.

Originally Posted by YapCity

You read WAY too much into it, lol.

I give Asian women the same requirements I do any other race.

1. Face.
2. Breasts
3. Waist
4. Ass
5. Personality
6. Intelligence

Basically in that order, but 4 and 1 are interchangeable depending on which way she's walking.

Now, I find FOREIGN women in general to be more interesting. Not necessarily women of a different race, more so from a different country or background. For instance, I would be MUCH more attracted to an Italian woman who came over from Italy 5 years ago than I would one from Massapequa Long Island.

The media didn't decide that for me. I would just rather be interested in what my mate has to say.

An American woman yammering on about things related to our consumer and media saturated society bores the living crap out of me. Either that, or you get the pretentious types who do nothing but quote books and articles to you. Worse than that, the philosophers who do nothing but discuss outlandish nonsense for hours on end.

Nope, I'd rather hear about how life was growing up in Istanbul. That's just me though.


~T

[FilmCutter]

There are several hot Asian men at my school. That's why I hate the media's depiction of them. Have you noticed lately that the Asian guy in the movie is some short, overly muscular maniac with shaved eyebrows who just screams and does karate moves? I'm not even Asian and I'm so embarrassed for them. I wonder how they feel about the way they are portrayed in the media.