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Old 04-04-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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The washington post had this article recently.
Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

'Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair, acknowledged there will be privacy concerns about centralizing cybersecurity, and he said the program should be designed in a way that gives Americans confidence that it is "not being used to gather private information'.

Now there's an understatement!
It is an understatement. A law is already in place that allows govt to get info from ISPs on your internet usage and you cannot sue ISPs - thanks to the Bush governent. Then, Ds were against such laws but I guess now it is OK for Obama to get more cyber-power. Rs supported the passage of the bill that protected ISP's right of encroachment but now they are all against more power for Obama.

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Old 04-04-2009, 08:46 PM
 
Location: South FL
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Martial Law for one. Then all you have left is TV and Radio and those are more readily controlled. Yeah tin foil maybe..but why else have that power ?

If there were civil unrest shutting down the internet would squash communications at our level. We'd be left with MSM.
agreed, .
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Old 04-05-2009, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Which industry is in favor of these provisions? This grants control of the internet over to governments and corporations, which seems to be in direct conflict of net neutrality. What kind of disaster would facilitate shutting down or taking control of the internet?
I'm not defending the bill. Perhaps I should have said some in the industry (instead of the industry) are not as opposed to all parts as one would expect. Do believe all are outraged over the Pres being able to take control of entire internet.

techbustr: The Cybersecurity Act of 2009
CADNA “Enthusiastically Welcomes” the Snowe Cybersecurity Act: ICA Where Are You?
TechLaw: Privacy
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers - Topics - NY Daily News
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Related issue I thought you would find of interest:

I'm sure you have heard of the Tax Day Tea Parties scheduled for April 15 throughout the country. The website Tax Day Tea Party lists where, etc. It was offline for a day or so. Below is the reason - they experienced a DOS attack. The following was on their website but as they post more older articles get "pushed" off the page (deleted perhaps?) and I can't find it now. But this is what had been copied directly from their page.

Tax Day Tea Party
> Issues with TaxDayTeaParty.com - Explanation
>
> Posted: 29 Mar 2009 06:44 PM PDT
>
> An international effort to shut down the TaxDayTeaParty.com website has been detected by our technical staff. Internet experts commonly call this type of attack a Denial of Service (DOS) attack. Corrective measures are being implemented, and the site should be fully accessible again within 48 hours.
>
> Unfortunately, these DOS attacks are very difficult to trace. In this case, the attacks have come from both domestic and international sources. All we know for certain at this point is that a group of people want to stop this movement. We will not allow this to happen. This citizens’ movement will not be stopped.
>
> We will be issuing an official press release on this issue on Monday, March 30th.
>
> Sunday, March 29th - TaxDayTeaParty.com Leadership Team
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:46 AM
 
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So let's see...

1) Possible Hyperinflation on the way

2) Gun wacko stories being given up front coverage, possibly to get buy in for more gun banning

3) Unbridled attack on privacy and freedom of speech

Sounds a bit like WWII Germany events shaping up all over again to anyone else?
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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the cybersecurity act of 2009 introduced in the senate would allow the president to shut down private internet networks. The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access.


The headlines were all about creating a national cyber-security czar reporting directly to the president, but the cybersecurity act of 2009 introduced april 1 in the u.s. Senate would also give the president unprecedented authority over private-sector internet services, applications and software.

unplug the internet: No president should have this power (http://digg.com/tech_news/unplug_the_internet_no_president_should_have_this_ power - broken link)

wow! What a lovely road our beautiful country is heading to !

bringing hope and change to the usa one byte at a time....
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:53 AM
 
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Obama wants to control it all
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Old 04-05-2009, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Obama wants to control it all
Obama or someone (or some group).

Do you think he wants to be a dictator or do you think there is a group (the Feds, a group of rich people, a special interest group, etc?)

We don't live in a dictatorship so I have a hard time believing 1 person alone can orchestrate all that is happening such as the proposed internet bill and the G20 Financial Stability Board agreement which will give the group indirect power over our financial institutions, exec pay, etc.
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Old 04-05-2009, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I so hate to look like I shop at The TinFoil Shoppe but add up lots of little things added rather inconspiciously to bills that sound beneficial on the surface and it's troubling.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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It is an understatement. A law is already in place that allows govt to get info from ISPs on your internet usage and you cannot sue ISPs - thanks to the Bush governent. Then, Ds were against such laws but I guess now it is OK for Obama to get more cyber-power. Rs supported the passage of the bill that protected ISP's right of encroachment but now they are all against more power for Obama.
Yes, quite the paradox isnt it? Seems as though it's all a big shell game to keep the general public divided, along party lines, bickering amongst themselves over who's better, R's or D's. All the while the main agenda moves forward while the children are pre occupied with the various "crises" that seem to arise every couple days......

A North Korean missile launch that we can bellow about for a week or so, ought to take everyone's attention off the sell out that occured at the G20 this week. And lay the groundwork for the next round of civil rights violations to come in the near future.....The Hegelian Dialectic at full throttle here folks.
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