Guns from U.S. to Mexico... (interstate, Mexican, illegal, drugs)

[Dukester]

Guns from U.S. to Mexico: Thorny issues crop up at the border

Mexico must tackle corruption as U.S. faces gun-rights debate

By Oscar Avila |Tribune correspondent2:51 PM CDT, April 5, 2009 NOGALES, Mexico - A steady flow of Americans used to come down Interstate 19 to this city on the Arizona border: those looking for cheap prescription drugs, kitschy souvenirs or less wholesome pursuits.

That flow of visitors has largely dried up, and city leaders blame another southward stream. Guns from the U.S. are fueling an outbreak of violence in Nogales and all over Mexico, according to officials from both countries.

As the U.S. and Mexico talk of a shared responsibility to contain an epidemic of drug-related violence, the U.S. is dispatching federal agents to the border to oversee expanded vehicle searches and investigations of dealers to keep guns from ending up in the hands of Mexican organized crime.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Atty. Gen. Eric Holder met with their Mexican counterparts near Mexico City last week, offering unusually frank acknowledgments of the U.S. role in Mexico's suffering. An estimated 90 percent of guns used in Mexican crimes were acquired in the U.S., and the illegal flow has begun to include more grenades and other military-style arms.


Guns from U.S. to Mexico: Thorny issues crop up at the border -- chicagotribune.com

[mcmastersteve]

The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.What's true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency's assistant director, "is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S."
But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.


Under normal circumstances, I never use Fox news as a source, but in this case they got it right.
The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S. - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

[Dukester]

Originally Posted by mcmastersteve

The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.What's true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency's assistant director, "is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S."
But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.


Under normal circumstances, I never use Fox news as a source, but in this case they got it right.
The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S. - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

Sorry don't view FAUX Entertaintment as news. I go more for mainstream stuff...

[GOPATTA2D]

Originally Posted by Dukester

Sorry don't view FAUX Entertaintment as news. I go more for mainstream stuff...

Like the Huffington Post...

[doc1]

You want Mainstream Media, dukester?

How about the Boston Globe?

On 3/4/09 they actually parroted the "90% of the guns are from the US" bulls**t when the ATF denied those statistics.

Better hurry though, that old MSM member is going down the tubes real fast.

[Dukester]

Originally Posted by GOPATTA2D

Like the Huffington Post...

That's one source among many others like The Tribune, Sun-Times, WaPO, NYT the list goes on...

[saltine]

Originally Posted by Dukester

Sorry don't view FAUX Entertaintment as news. I go more for mainstream stuff...

83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
Hmmmmmm???? Think about that for a minute with your own mind.

[Dukester]

Originally Posted by doc1

You want Mainstream Media, dukester?

How about the Boston Globe?

On 3/4/09 they actually parroted the "90% of the guns are from the US" bulls**t when the ATF denied those statistics.

Better hurry though, that old MSM member is going down the tubes real fast.

Your funny. So let me ask you a question. When has FAUX Entertainment News have ever ever won an award in journalism. You know like a little thing called a Nobel Prize, how about the Edward R. Murrow award in Journalism?

[doc1]

Originally Posted by Dukester

Your funny. So let me ask you a question. When has FAUX Entertainment News have ever ever won an award in journalism. You know like a little thing called a Nobel Prize, how about the Edward R. Murrow award in Journalism?

Good question and since you asked I would say they probably haven't.

Speaking of prestigious awards, why did a NYT reporter get awarded a Pulitzer on his articles about the Soviet Union back in the 20s and 30s yet conveniently overlooked some of the more, uh, shall we say unpleasantness that occurred during the forced collectiveness of the Ukraine and other Stalinist hijinks?

A Columbia U (hardly a rightwing think tank) investigation stated "their lack of balance and uncritical acceptance of the Soviet self-justification for its cruel and wasteful regime had misrepresented history and done a disservice to the paper's readers".

For what it may be worth to you, the NYT never rescinded the award.

Yassir Arafat won a Nobel Peace prize.

You can have your awards and bank what ever you want to with them.

[Dukester]

Originally Posted by doc1

Good question and since you asked I would say they probably haven't.

Speaking of prestigious awards, why did a NYT reporter get awarded a Pulitzer on his articles about the Soviet Union back in the 20s and 30s yet conveniently overlooked some of the more, uh, shall we say unpleasantness that occurred during the forced collectiveness of the Ukraine and other Stalinist hijinks?

A Columbia U (hardly a rightwing think tank) investigation stated "their lack of balance and uncritical acceptance of the Soviet self-justification for its cruel and wasteful regime had misrepresented history and done a disservice to the paper's readers".

For what it may be worth to you, the NYT never rescinded the award.

Yassir Arafat won a Nobel Peace prize.

You can have your awards and bank what ever you want to with them.

Don't know, do you got a source/link?