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Old 04-06-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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while Democrats are the ones more likely to adopt a considerate, wait-and-see approach
Yeah, wait and see him absolutely destroy the US economy with his monstrous deficit spending, taxes on energy and more entitlement programs we can't afford.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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He was rated "most liberal" by a right wing rag magazine who cooked the statistic up. They did the same thing with Al Gore rating him the "most liberal" ...LOL Stop spreading right wing propaganda.
Quite true...the citation is bogus. But by his actual voting record, Senator Obama was still among and within the more liberal factions in the Senate. He was less insistently liberal during the campaign, and has thusfar been center to center-left as President, which is in fact about where the country is.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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He was rated "most liberal" by a right wing rag magazine who cooked the statistic up.
Again, more lies. His record is rated the most liberal by the National Journal. Not a right-wing mag.

Based completely on his voting record is a fact you cannot dispute.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They don't have the balls to do what needs to be done to get this country fixed
It takes balls to spend trillions that we don't have?

To initiate massive tax hikes on every american through his cap&trade energy policy?
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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I seem to remember you screeching about bush's $400 Billion deficit - but not a word from you regarding obama's $13 TRILLION deficit. Do you realize that your credibility is now in the SH***er?

Pay no attention to the facts behind the curtain - they are a distraction to the Left.

Pay no attention to the polls, because they are biased.

Pay no attention to Obama's rhetoric on personal sacrifice while planning to lower mortgage balances for the "poor".

Pay no attention that Congress rushed legislation to retroactively tax AIG bonuses but stays silent on the Fannie Mae bonuses.

Pay no attention that Obama signed legislation without even reading it - legislation with enough pork to make BLT's for a small country.

Pay no attention to their hypocrisy - because they are the "chosen".
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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What magazine was that? Do you have a link to both articles?

I'm not (necessarily) questioning your information, as I don't know where that designation originated, but I'm not just going to take your word for it, either.
The magazine is National Journal....and it was Kerry not Gore the last time around..my mistake.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Why do those on the left deny their own position?
Shouldn't they be proud of it?
http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/pdf/08election.pdf (broken link)




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Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal
senator in 2007
, based on National Journal ’s vote
ratings. He shifted further to the left last year in the
run-up to the presidential primaries, after ranking as
the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two
years in the Senate. Sen. Hillary Rodham
Clinton, D-N.Y., also shifted to the left last year,
although she has generally been more moderate in
the ratings than her Democratic presidential rival.
Clinton was the 16th-most-liberal senator in 2007,
after ranking as the 32nd-most-liberal senator in
2006. (NJ published an analysis of Obama’s and
Clinton’s scores in our 2/2/08 issue, which is also
available at nationaljournal.com.)
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Pay no attention to the facts behind the curtain - they are a distraction to the Left.

Pay no attention to the polls, because they are biased.

Pay no attention to Obama's rhetoric on personal sacrifice while planning to lower mortgage balances for the "poor".

Pay no attention that Congress rushed legislation to retroactively tax AIG bonuses but stays silent on the Fannie Mae bonuses.

Pay no attention that Obama signed legislation without even reading it - legislation with enough pork to make BLT's for a small country.

Pay no attention to their hypocrisy - because they are the "chosen".
They have lost whatever integrity and intellectual honesty they had - if they really had any in the first place.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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It takes balls to spend trillions that we don't have?

To initiate massive tax hikes on every american through his cap&trade energy policy?
NO.. it takes balls to make swift and needed moves to fix what the right screwed up in the first place..

And yes. . .balls to make tax hikes to repair the right wing mess and clean it up..

But you all can whine..whine away..whining isn't going to change the fact that now there is a President to do what your party refused to do to clean up the mess your party , who had control of the gov't for the last 8 years , made.

The man hasn't been in office but 6 months and all you guys can do is whine rather than give him a chance. Bush had a chance for 8 years.. as did the Republicans..now just put up or shut up.. because someone is putting up and doing what is needed to get us out of this mess..

Armchair quaterbacking isn't going to cut it.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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Can you give some examples? Especially having to do with his budget and the economy?
Well, let's see...the level of tax cuts included in the stimulus package was just about doubled in drafting it so as to meet the expressed wishes of Republicans. There were those outreach meetings with Obama visiting Republican leaders and caucuses to establish a give-and-take dialogue on the matter. There were Obama's requests that birth control, repairs to The Mall, and other funding that Republicans quibbled over be taken out of the bill. And in exchange he was handed flaming disrespect and the total of zero Republican votes in the House. Slap the bipartisan hand extended and then claim the administration isn't being sufficiently bipartisan. Bipartisanship does not mean that the majority hands the reins over to the minority, no matter what Republican clowns might think on that matter.
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