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Probably an urban legend. But an excellent description nonetheless. It illustrates the intentions of socialism, the way it's often implemented... and the unintended consequences that lead to the actual result.
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism."
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided that since they could not make an A, they studied less. The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else. All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder people try to succeed the greater their reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no one will try or succeed.
H/T Shelly
Stupid example, stupid post. You don't know the first thing about Socialism. But if you are interested go here Youth for International Socialism - Marxism FAQ. If you are not, then shut up about Socialism, you are only embarrassing yourself.
A college professor, who had never failed a student before, failed an entire class. The class had insisted that capitalism worked and that no one should get anything they didn’t earn. The professor then said, “OK we well have an experiment in this class on capitalism.”
All grades would be earned according to a curve style grading. Before the first test, pages in library books were ripped out by students in order to get a competitive edge over the other students in the class (This really did happen in pre-med at the U of M during the 80s). Many of the students failed the test because they could not access the necessary information needed to pass. The students who cheated for the A threw the entire grading curve, causing even more to fail. Yet the A students continued to sabotage the other students to ensure their own high grade. The curve became so extreme between the A students and the remainder of the class, an investigation ensued.
The A students were found to be cheating and were thrown out. The other students were unable to access the necessary information and had to retake the class.
The entire experiment failed because the greed of a few, denied many.
The end.
Another cute story... Complete $h!t, but a cute story. Did you loose a promotion to someone more qualified? Are you being oppressed? Didn't get that 100k starting salary you thought you deserved right out of college?
Whats your problem with capitalism? Ive been shot down(couldn't pass due to missing pages). I just worked harder and became better thru other avenues(used google to search for pdfs of pages 30-36 & 45-53). Now I'm ahead of all those people who sat back and cried(people who didn't use google). Plus I'm ahead of the people who where paper tigers and got laid off in the recent waves of layoffs!(the guys who cheated and didn't really know jack).
Whenever you people talk about "socialism" in this way, I have to laugh. It's a very simplistic way of looking at economics that shows a very elementary understanding of what Socialism really is. The people who are pushing for "Socialism" do not advocate that kind of system. They advocate a system that is akin to Norway and Sweden, two countries that have higher standards of living, lower crime and less poverty than the US. They are not saying we should have 100% taxes on everyone and live in communal houses and share food, they are saying that everyone deserves a fair share without their labor being exploited by the Bourgeoisie.
Nobody is saying that a doctor should be paid the same as his assistant, just that he shouldn't be making 30x what his assistant makes while his assistant can't afford health care or even to put money into a retirement plan. The range in salaries from the lowest paid employee to the CEO should not be 30 times or more, it's got to be a lot less than that. You may feel like apathy comes only from everyone getting an equal share, but it also comes from people at the bottom who see no path to the top and who give up on any chances for an improvement in their career path.
30x's for CEO's and the bottom would be healthy. 500x's was what broke the camels back, particularly when R's have the argument that unions are to blame for working class poor. I wouldn't whoop that mule if I were y'all!
Jojain, very astute observation! That's not a very well regulated version of capitalism, is it?
Oz, the vaccum of power- fiscal conservatives being usurped from the table so long is palatable. I hope Ron Paul finds the right words to illustrate a plan that makes sense to all. We need conservatives badly.
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Probably an urban legend. But an excellent description nonetheless. It illustrates the intentions of socialism, the way it's often implemented... and the unintended consequences that lead to the actual result.
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism."
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided that since they could not make an A, they studied less. The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else. All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder people try to succeed the greater their reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no one will try or succeed.
H/T Shelly
when the first pilgrims arrive in massachusetts a collective was formed. they nearly all starved for the same reasons as is in the quotation above. after this fiasco each family was assigned a plot with the provision that they needed to fend for themselves. the result was abundance and what we now call the first thanksgiving.
Another cute story... Complete $h!t, but a cute story. Did you loose a promotion to someone more qualified? Are you being oppressed? Didn't get that 100k starting salary you thought you deserved right out of college?
Whats your problem with capitalism? Ive been shot down(couldn't pass due to missing pages). I just worked harder and became better thru other avenues(used google to search for pdfs of pages 30-36 & 45-53). Now I'm ahead of all those people who sat back and cried(people who didn't use google). Plus I'm ahead of the people who where paper tigers and got laid off in the recent waves of layoffs!(the guys who cheated and didn't really know jack).
That's true. But it's also true that some who cheated got paid a retirement up front, and knowing the game of musical chairs as well as they did, put their $$$ in st elsewhere assets that can survive a depression.
I support properly regulated capitalism, not corruption.
Location: miami, fla. enjoying the relative cool, for now ;)
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Stupid example, stupid post. You don't know the first thing about Socialism. But if you are interested go here Youth for International Socialism - Marxism FAQ. If you are not, then shut up about Socialism, you are only embarrassing yourself.
no way you believe that tripe. if you do then, BWAHAHAHAHA
30x's for CEO's and the bottom would be healthy. 500x's was what broke the camels back, particularly when R's have the argument that unions are to blame for working class poor. I wouldn't whoop that mule if I were y'all!
Jojain, very astute observation! That's not a very well regulated version of capitalism, is it?
Oz, the vaccum of power- fiscal conservatives being usurped from the table so long is palatable. I hope Ron Paul finds the right words to illustrate a plan that makes sense to all. We need conservatives badly.
It's your man Obama who is selling out the union worker. Who is he forcing into bankruptcy GM or AIG?
when the first pilgrims arrive in massachusetts a collective was formed. they nearly all starved for the same reasons as is in the quotation above. after this fiasco each family was assigned a plot with the provision that they needed to fend for themselves. the result was abundance and what we now call the first thanksgiving.
That's true. But it's also true that some who cheated got paid a retirement up front, and knowing the game of musical chairs as well as they did, put their $$$ in st elsewhere assets that can survive a depression.
I support properly regulated capitalism, not corruption.
Agreed... cant argue those points. It is however possible to get ahead in our current capitalist(ish) system. It really is. The sacrifice may be large(for me it was years away from home traveling, broke as a joke, and missing the first two years of my sons life). It can be done tho. Be positive and innovative in you pursuits and beat the system. Then infiltrate it and attempt to fix it. Thats what I'm trying anyways.
The goal of the right is "to save unborn babies"
and then let them die from hunger, illnesses, etc. because their parents are too lazy to get 3 jobs and watch their kids at the same time.
Is that why they want them so badly?
I thought they were raising them for cannon fodder for their next illegal invasion.
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