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Old 04-15-2009, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It can be done if the system is changed. I think certain confirmed diagnoses should be automatically reported whether the person has been confined in a mental health unit or not.
Well, in the case of mental illness, I feel that there are two viable answers if you are a threat to yourself or others. One, we can take your life. You're obviously not capable of being a functioning member of society, and as such are not giving anything back. Plus, being a dangerous individual, there's a risk that you will cause others harm. It is our right to mitigate that by killing you before you do so.

Either that, or you could be confined--banished from society--in a mental institution, a lunatic asylum. Unfortunately, some people have been less and less willing to keep these kinds of places open, and these individuals apart from society. Then they wonder why they have crazy people running around.
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Let me see if I understand your position...
We should restrict the rights of the many to protect us from the possible misdeeds of the few?
Well sure!
We've done it with Jarts , peanuts, baby walkers and a whole raft of other things!
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:11 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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"As far as I know, Your Honor, it was stolen from my home."
Lol, you could do that, but if you did not file a police report and record the serial number as a stolen weapon, it makes that story seem a bit unplausible. And if you DO record the gun as stolen, the guy you sold it to turns out to be a good guy and gets caught with the weapon, you just ruined someones life. A more prudent strategy would be to just not sell a gun to someone you don't know well, or put in on consignment at the local gunshop where the purchase can be properly conducted, with the background check et al. The latter is pretty good because 99.99% of people who are going to a gunshop to purchase are law abiding folks anyway. If I want to sell a gun thats what I usually do. The fee the gunshop charges me is fair and a newspaper ad would cost me that much anyway. Plus I get right to my target group for the sale
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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There are even companies making guns specifically for the left handed shooter.
My 50 year old PA-63 came with the factory grips - hard plastic molded for the right hand. I had to order a set of aftermarket grips from a wordworker to make the gun ambidextrous.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: NY
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Lol, you could do that, but if you did not file a police report and record the serial number as a stolen weapon, it makes that story seem a bit unplausible. And if you DO record the gun as stolen, the guy you sold it to turns out to be a good guy and gets caught with the weapon, you just ruined someones life. A more prudent strategy would be to just not sell a gun to someone you don't know well, or put in on consignment at the local gunshop where the purchase can be properly conducted, with the background check et al. The latter is pretty good because 99.99% of people who are going to a gunshop to purchase are law abiding folks anyway. If I want to sell a gun thats what I usually do. The fee the gunshop charges me is fair and a newspaper ad would cost me that much anyway. Plus I get right to my target group for the sale
In NY you can sell a long gun privately but not a handgun. I sold a pistol to my buddy and we both had to go the Nassau County HQ with the gun and our permits and do the actual transfer of the gun right there. The police then took it off my permit and added it to my buddies.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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In NY you can sell a long gun privately but not a handgun. I sold a pistol to my buddy and we both had to go the Nassau County HQ with the gun and our permits and do the actual transfer of the gun right there. The police then took it off my permit and added it to my buddies.
Oh, we don't have to have an express 'permit' for any type of gun here, long or hand. Just a CCW if you want to carry. NV also allows carry in your vehicle, without a CCW. Your car/truck is considered an extension of your home, and I usually have a rifle with me at all times, for varmint purposes. Living in a ranching area has it's advantages that way. I generally prefer to not sell a gun to someone I don't know, which is why I use the consignment option. This is a litigeous age we live in and it don't pay to take any chances with the law.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Oh, we don't have to have an express 'permit' for any type of gun here, long or hand. Just a CCW if you want to carry.
...unless you live in Las Vegas. Here, you have to have a "blue card," which is a registration card, for each handgun you own.

If you're transporting your handgun for any reason, including CCW, you have to have the blue card with you. I have two of the damn things taking up space in my wallet along with my CCW so I'm always sure that I have them with me when I'm carrying either of the guns listed on my carry permit. When I take the ones not listed on my permit to the range, I have to remember to bring the damn things with me, lest I lose my CCW over it. It's stupid, and the residents here know it. There was a big push to have the registration law repealed, and it almost succeeded. The politicians - as usual and in their infinite stupidity - ignored the will of the people.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NY
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Oh, we don't have to have an express 'permit' for any type of gun here, long or hand. Just a CCW if you want to carry. NV also allows carry in your vehicle, without a CCW. Your car/truck is considered an extension of your home, and I usually have a rifle with me at all times, for varmint purposes. Living in a ranching area has it's advantages that way. I generally prefer to not sell a gun to someone I don't know, which is why I use the consignment option. This is a litigeous age we live in and it don't pay to take any chances with the law.
Ahh, to live in a state where it really is like America, not Communist Russia! Well as soon as I retire, I'm out of NY to a much more gun friendly state.
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Lol, you could do that, but if you did not file a police report and record the serial number as a stolen weapon, it makes that story seem a bit unplausible.
How would I know that it was missing, until I went to look for it?
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:30 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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...unless you live in Las Vegas. Here, you have to have a "blue card," which is a registration card, for each handgun you own.

If you're transporting your handgun for any reason, including CCW, you have to have the blue card with you. I have two of the damn things taking up space in my wallet along with my CCW so I'm always sure that I have them with me when I'm carrying either of the guns listed on my carry permit. When I take the ones not listed on my permit to the range, I have to remember to bring the damn things with me, lest I lose my CCW over it. It's stupid, and the residents here know it. There was a big push to have the registration law repealed, and it almost succeeded. The politicians - as usual and in their infinite stupidity - ignored the will of the people.
I don't get down Vegas way much. Once in all my life in NV actually. Sounds like ya'll have been 'Californicated'. Tkramer, a guy could probably concoct any **** n bull story he needed to to stay out of jail in a situation like that, but personally, I'l just keep whatever guns I want to sell on a more professional level for the transaction. I prefer to watch cops on TV Lol, whats with the asterisks in my reply to TK? I guess the filters don't take the context of the word into consideration?
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