Obama legal counsel refers to women as "Fetal Containers" - "Losers in the Conception Lottery" (school, carry)

[CharlottePirateFan]

Originally Posted by newtoli

What about when BC fails?

That would kind of be "losing the conception lottery", wouldn't it?

What happens when americans get in all sorts of situations? Is there an easy-button for everything?

Also, can you tell me what % of abortions actually come about because of failed BC?

I'm not condemning them to hell or anything. I think some people just want to be able to do anything they want with no consequences.

[CharlottePirateFan]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Oh yes, when a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, it's her fault! She should have taken some personal responsibility!

Im not saying it is their fault. Im also not saying they shouldnt be able to abort.

What % of abortions come from rape? What % come from failed BC?

What % come from women who didnt use BC but had sex anyways?

[karfar]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

You're mistaken. It should enrage all females. Do you females not have any dignity anymore? Or is dignity now defined by the ability to have as much sex as you want, and as many abortions as you'd like?

Yep, that's right. The more sex the better, looooove sex! No dignity for me. You're barking up the wrong tree w/this one. I have no desire to ever have kids, so fetal container is aptly named.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by karfar

Yep, that's right. The more sex the better, looooove sex! No dignity for me. You're barking up the wrong tree w/this one. I have no desire to ever have kids, so fetal container is aptly named.

On that note, Fetal Trash Compactor would be more appropriate. Aren't you glad your parents didn't share the same view?

Simply put, some people just don't want to pay the consequences for their actions.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

I have always been anti-abortion except in instances of rape, incest, etc. There has to be a common sense approach to it.

Just the other day, I spoke with a lady who had 3 abortions as a result of unplanned pregnancy with three different men. You can actually sit there with a straight face and believe that this type of lifestyle is beneficial to human morality and the human race in general?

Oh really? Some "lady" just came up to you and said "Oh hi! I had 3 abortions by 3 different men".

If it was the truth, can you sit there with a straight face and say her having those children would have been beneficial to morality and the human race in general?

[CharlottePirateFan]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Oh really? Some "lady" just came up to you and said "Oh hi! I had 3 abortions by 3 different men".

If it was the truth, can you sit there with a straight face and say her having those children would have been beneficial to morality and the human race in general?

So what % of abortions come from rape again? From failed BC?

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Oh really? Some "lady" just came up to you and said "Oh hi! I had 3 abortions by 3 different men".

If it was the truth, can you sit there with a straight face and say her having those children would have been beneficial to morality and the human race in general?

I don't have to go into detail or prove to you how this conversation took place. Just like a liberal to question a statement of fact....and you do it only because it exposes the lifestyle that you so clearly advocate.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

I don't have to go into detail or prove to you how this conversation took place. Just like a liberal to question a statement of fact.

Well, it's pretty unbelievable that someone would just come up to you and tell you something like that.

Even if she did, it doesn't bother me in the least. I don't view abortion as murder. You say how irresponsible she is, yet seems to think she would have been better off giving birth. Doesn't really make any sense.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by CharlottePirateFan

So what % of abortions come from rape again? From failed BC?

Failed BC is about 54%
Rape statistics are iffy, as you will not always get a woman to admit she was raped... I believe reported stats are at approx 2%.

Abortion is abortion whether it is 1 or 10, whatever the reason.

If you believe in a woman's right to have an abortion after failed BC, why would you not believe in a woman's right to have an abortion because she didn't use BC? Do you think she should be punished for not using BC by being forced to give birth? An abortion is not exactly an easy or cheap form of birth control.

[karfar]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

On that note, Fetal Trash Compactor would be more appropriate. Aren't you glad your parents didn't share the same view?

Simply put, some people just don't want to pay the consequences for their actions.

Actually, if my parents had decided no to have me, I would have no idea. So yeah, whatever, doesn't bother me. Again, sorry I'm not enraged by you, must be pretty disappointing.