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I have yet to see a statistic that purports the failure of birth control to be a leading cause of pregnancy.
Here's some statistical data complied by the FDA:
The following table provides estimates of the percent of women likely to become pregnant while using a particular contraceptive method for one year. These estimates are based on a variety of studies.
"Typical Use" rates mean that the method either was not always used correctly or was not used with every act of sexual intercourse (e.g., sometimes forgot to take a birth control pill as directed and became pregnant), or was used correctly but failed anyway.
"Lowest Expected" rates mean that the method was always used correctly with every act of sexual intercourse but failed anyway (e.g., always took a birth control pill as directed but still became pregnant).
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As a female, I am personally more disgusted by the comments that say Michelle Obama is fat and looks like a man. Those are far more cruel and insulting to the average woman than these out-of-context comments.
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This is my last post to this thread. I still stand by my comments that:
1) EVERY female should be enraged that she would be referred to as a "fetal container", no matter if the accuser is pro-life or pro-choice. Absolutely no dignity in that.
2) Personal responsibility should trump political policy anyday. If you make the baby by your own carelessness, you should stand up to your responsibility as parents.
Adios.
LOL. YOU started this thread and now are wanting to leave? LOL.
Daddy, when I grow up, I wanna be a Republican!!!!!
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
As I said before, I absolutely agree. However, I do believe this nation suffers a huge lapse in personal responsibility. Blaming it on another generation is a symptom, not a cure. Most come in with nothing but a college degree and think they have the whole world in their hands. I've even had one person send in a 3-page manifest on why we were wrong in not hiring that person, and even alluded that it may have been discrimination. As long as that sort of entitlement attitude continues to walk into my office, i'll maintain that this generation of kids will never compare to generations past. Thankfully, Washington DC has sizeable intellectual worker base, so I can easily weed out the entitlement crowd in favor of those that will work hard to achieve mutual goals.
I don't know what you're getting at in your link to that thread. I am a proponent of personal responsibility. What's so hard to understand about that? You're just making my point for me.
I would proposition every pro-choice man to start referring to his date as a "fetal container" and see how far he gets. That would make you just fall right in love with him wouldn't it? You pro-choicers give men every right to impregnate you and walk away. Why not, she'll get an abortion..right?
Women libs complain about the context. How's that for out of context? All of a sudden you have diginity, eh?
So your under the belief that there are NO conservatives that are pro-choice or have had an abortion?
AeroGuy, I'm not trying to drag you back into this thread which you are clearly trying to exit. I, too, think that people need to behave far more responsibly when it comes to reproductive matters. But there are some practical questions that come up when you start making abortion available conditionally. If you make abortion available to people whose birth control method failed, you'll probably see a lot more people claiming that birth control failed them. Unless you make them prove it somehow, and to some authority, people will simply fall back on that. What do you do about the women then, who cannot prove it? The teen girl who's been raped, and who has chosen not to report it? Just how much trauma do you want to subject her to? For every abortion there is a different situation, special circumstances that only the woman is privy to. No one thinks abortion is a good choice. Abortion isn't convenient. Abortion isn't inexpensive. Abortion is traumatic and horrible. But for some women the alternative is even worse. So do we demand that women prove that the alternative is worse? Do we demand that women justify their decisions? If it's a matter of respect and dignity, shouldn't we respect a woman's privacy in making this decision? Shouldn't we assume that she's made an informed, thoughtful, and heart-wrenching choice based on her own personal knowledge of herself and her situation? Rather than assuming that she's amoral or stupid or heartless? Shouldn't pro-life respect her life, and her intelligence, and her morality?
I don't know what you're getting at in your link to that thread. I am a proponent of personal responsibility. What's so hard to understand about that? You're just making my point for me.
See ya.
How am I making your point for you?
No, you are not a proponent of personal responsibility. You are a proponent of wanting control of women and pushing your beliefs onto to others.
No, you are not a proponent of personal responsibility. You are a proponent of wanting control of women and pushing your beliefs onto to others.
Yep .... keep those women from being able to make choices!!!! While men have absolutely no responsibility whatsoever ... nah, they don't need to worry about wearing a raincoat, coverin' the pipe, wrappin' the willy ... it's the female's responsibility to say no, to abstain, to use birth control.
Women absolutely should have control over their bodies which is why they SHOULD TAKE THAT CONTROL BEFORE FINDING THEMSELVES PREGNANT. What ever happened to acting responsibly and being accountable for one's actions. If women want to be loose canons and screw indiscriminately without protection or concern for the potential of pregnancy .... have at it! However, I don't believe it should be on my nickel. I don't want to pay for your abortion.... my rights count too. You want to be pro-choice... fine. Do it on your own nickel. You want abortion... fine. Pay for it yourself and be responsible for your own actions. I don't believe in abortion but respect pro-choice and the freedom to choose. However, with that said I don't believe the Government should tax me for your choice. Fetal Containers in any context is inflammatory.
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