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04-16-2009, 07:35 PM
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This article from the Southern Poverty Law Center reports the unprecedented
rise in hate groups. There is mention of stormfront, which has been discussed
on this forum before. Tacit approval encourages those who, for their own
reasons, would violate the basic principles of this country. If one has been involved with any of these groups, the question is: Why should your beliefs
be more important than those who fight such blights on our society? If the majority of Americans prefer to live peaceably together, what right do hate groups have to destroy our ability to do that?
SPLC’s Intelligence Report: Hate Group Numbers Rise Again | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center
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04-16-2009, 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan1
This article from the Southern Poverty Law Center reports the unprecedented
rise in hate groups. There is mention of stormfront, which has been discussed
on this forum before. Tacit approval encourages those who, for their own
reasons, would violate the basic principles of this country. If one has been involved with any of these groups, the question is: Why should your beliefs
be more important than those who fight such blights on our society? If the majority of Americans prefer to live peaceably together, what right do hate groups have to destroy our ability to do that?
SPLC’s Intelligence Report: Hate Group Numbers Rise Again | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center
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The SPLC lists or has listed in the past Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the Constitution Party, and other such groups as "right wing extremists." You discredit yourself when you use the SPLC as a source. There's better sources out there that don't merely label those they disagree with as "extremists" and instead give out good info. on the true extremists (like the KKK, etc.).
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04-16-2009, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan1
This article from the Southern Poverty Law Center reports the unprecedented
rise in hate groups.
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This group in itself is nothing more than a hate group. If you don't agree with them you get tagged as being part of a hate group. They are totally worthless.
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04-16-2009, 07:51 PM
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Not a member
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Location: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan1
This article from the Southern Poverty Law Center reports the unprecedented
rise in hate groups. There is mention of stormfront, which has been discussed
on this forum before. Tacit approval encourages those who, for their own
reasons, would violate the basic principles of this country. If one has been involved with any of these groups, the question is: Why should your beliefs
be more important than those who fight such blights on our society? If the majority of Americans prefer to live peaceably together, what right do hate groups have to destroy our ability to do that?
SPLC’s Intelligence Report: Hate Group Numbers Rise Again | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center
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SPLC is itself a hate group.
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04-16-2009, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous Political Junky
SPLC is itself a hate group.
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SPLC a hate group?
Right wingers, right wingers, go away, go away and stay away.
What a freaking unreal statement.
Yea, they hate bigots like 1/2 the right wingers on this forum.
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04-16-2009, 10:38 PM
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The funny part is that the memo was sent to law enforcemnt agencies around the country. It sites no evidence and was actually leaked by law enforcemnt to the press. Can you believe what all those law enfoircemnt veterans thought when they heard this. The per centage of law enforcement that are veterans is huge.What does she think her receiption and workign relationship with law enforcement will be after this stupid memo.
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04-16-2009, 10:44 PM
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Lol, both extreme end of the spectrum, right and lft seem to be equally well represented on this thread. Both feel threatened by each other, so much so that the rhetoric has escalated into verbal warfare. Both sides decrying the position of the other as 'extemist' without any thought to self examination. Interesting. The 'right' sees a threat to the 2nd ammendment, and over zealous taxation without representation. Massive government intrusion into personal and private affairs, and a general dilution of what they consider to be 'traditional America'. The left sees public safety being compromised by what they consider ' unregulated' private ownership of arms, an unwilligness to compromise, what they consider to be an unwillingness to 'pay a fair share' and ,last but not least, 'racism'. These are breif and general descriptions of each position, but I don't want to write a bloody college thesis here. This is a fuse burning from both ends. Sooner or later it either has to burn out or light something that goes bang. Extemism on both sides is dominating everthing we see and hear , and evrybody , no matter their views, is getting caught up in the storm, so to speak, and being badgered to take one side or the other, lest you be labeled as being the 'enemy'. The old 'your either with us or against us' bit. Us and them. I will have to beg pardon here as I don't wnat anthting to do with either far left or far right. These two groups are just spoiling for a fight with each other, and if I am preparing for anything , it's surviving getting caught in the middle. 
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04-17-2009, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by swagger
That's not fear mongering, that's prudence. 
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That's a good example of the stalinist mentality. It's all about setting the stage to take total control, making up stories to justify one's power grabs in advance. There is no more dangerous kind of politics.
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04-17-2009, 08:28 AM
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De-racinated member trying to stay balanced
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Originally Posted by Glitch
You are mistaken, they went far beyond their job in assessing threats, including deliberate distorting reality to push their leftist anti-American agenda. Its funny how all you lefties went ballastic when you thought the CIA was spying on US citizens in the Bush administration, but now you are perfectly fine with DHS doing the exact samething under the Obama administration. Can you say "hypocrite?" I knew you could.
There so-called assessment of left-wing threats amounted to only the warm and fuzzy non-violent left-wing wackos, and completely ignored all the violent left-wing wacko organizations. Meanwhile lumping everyone who disagrees with the Affirmative Action President as an extremely dangerous right-wing terrorist. Naturally you consider that to be fair and non-partisan, but most won't because they have not been drinking the Obama kool-aid like you obviously have.
Yea, like US troops returning home from their Iraq and Afghanistan deployments - automatically flagged as potential terrorists by DHS. Another such "incident" comes to mind, all those who voted for McCain, Paul, or Barr - automatically flagged as potential terrorists by DHS.
You truly do like manufacturing bullsh*t, don't you? Let me remind you, since you obviously chose to forget, the Weather Underground, the Chicago 7, and all the left-wing terrorism that occurred during the 1960s was under LBJ's administration.
The report DOES dismiss left-wing terrorism, completely. It does not report on a single violent left-wing organization. You just can't help but lie, it is the only way you can defend this trash. To denigrate our military by referring to them as potential terrorists is expected from the anti-military, anti-American left-wing wackos, and this DHS report demonstrates precisely that no matter how you try to spin it.
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I'm sorry you're so angry, but you're also full of BS. The report on right-wing extremism doesn't report on left-wing extremism because it's subject is right-wing extremism. You don't report on brown eggs when the subject of your report is white eggs. There was an entirely separate report on left-wing extremism. And it does not describe "everyone who disagrees with the Affirmative Action President as an extremely dangerous right-wing terrorist." If you want to play victim and claim that it does, you'll have to cite it. Otherwise you're putting words into the report that don't exist, to manufacture outrage that is based on imaginary insults.
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