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Some did, some didn't. Like any big group project, the Constitution was a compromise drafted by 50 men with 50 different view points.
And some of those only showed up part time, and some of them really didn't contribute anything of substance. It's actually somewhat amazing that such a small group working under such difficult conditions could actually have come up with what they did as quickly as they did. Then again, they barely got it adopted and they had to do some serious politics even to get to barely...
Nonetheless, the Constitution was written in black and white and it is (should be) clear what it means. A problem has been that it has been repeatedly misapplied and repeatedly subverted.
Well, right off the bat it was amended in ten ways, and the system it created was all but reinvented once that 14th Amendment came along. And as scholars will readily tell you, one of the reasons the Constitution has survived so long has been its built-in flexibility. The framers had no intent at all of shackling their descendants in chains of their forefathers' making. They purposely left room for all this misapplication and subversion that you decry.
Once inflation kicks in, and we all suffer under even higher taxes, maybe then the left will wake up to the tax and spend paradise, is anything but.
Where is all this inflation supposed to come from again? You do realize that better than $15 trillion worth of wealth has recently simply evaporated out of existence. You do realize that there are substantial pools of idle human and physical resources lying around. You do realize that the same projections you rely on to blast Obama over all this debt do not show inflation exceeding 2.0% at any point in the next decade.
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
Remember, 0bama said we cannot borrow money anymore...
Every piece of pork went into the stimulus plan. What happened to the "no more pork" promise Obama made ?
There are no earmarks in ARRA. None. Every penny of it went through the committees with jurisdiction with full opportunity for amendment under regular order. Unfortunately "pork" to some people simply means spending that they either don't like or don't understand.
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Honestly, does the American taxpayer need to foot the bill to repave a small airport runway used by one Congressman or fix up various country clubs ?
Got any details? And hopefully these are things that are actually in the act, not, as is so often the case, simply things that were taken from the various lists of so-called shovel-ready projects that served to put forward potential candidates for funding.
Some did, some didn't. Like any big group project, the Constitution was a compromise drafted by 50 men with 50 different view points.
And the compromise was small federal government, strong states rights. That is certainly not the direction Obama is taking us. If you left wing liberals would just admit that you are not for what our founding fathers first created at least we moderates could respect your being honest.
Small and weak. That's what they already had under the Articles. Why didn't they just keep those? The larger point of course was that these latter-day anti-socialist types resent and object to any centralized authority at all. That objection is quite clearly not consistent with what was intended by the founders nor by any other sound thinker whose name I could recall...
I have no problem admitting that the Republican party has gone awry recently. Where the Democratic party under Obama is taking America is so far left from center, that what the Republican party has done in comparison is nothing. We are entering an age where the Constitution will matter little to those governing. What will come out of it is anyone's guess. I hope if anything it shakes up the sheep and they begin to once again be interested in a government of the people, for the people, and by the people. If not, they deserve whatever the far left does to our once great country.
Got any details? And hopefully these are things that are actually in the act, not, as is so often the case, simply things that were taken from the various lists of so-called shovel-ready projects that served to put forward potential candidates for funding.
This stuff is out there for anyone who wants to put forth the effort to investigate where your tax dollars are really going.
I also read through the stimulus bill and there's plenty of pet projects that will only benefit the few that use them.
By his theory of a unitary executive and his imaginative interpretations of Article 2, Bush essentially governed as if there were no power other than the power of the President. It's not illegal unless and until someone can come and physically prevent you from doing it. That's actually the Rudy Giuliani theory of executive power, but Bush certainly did represent it well.
Obama by comparison is Casper Milquetoast. Comparing him to Bush on this scale is at least ridiculous, and probably more toward absurd.
Let me see, removing CEOs, threatening bond holders of private businesses, attempting to control the financial sector, continuing military tribunals, killing innocent civilians in foreign countries. I don't think I need to go further. If Bush was was acting like a king, Obama is acting like a dictator by comparison, and not benevolent.
You have either got to be joking, or just plain blind.
I don't understand. Obama is the exact same guy he was when he campaigned. He's doing exactly what I expected him to do which is why I didn't vote for him. The difference is people were listening to promises, as they do with all politicians trying to get elected, instead of studying his history to form some opinion of how he would govern that might be radically different from past presidents, Democrat and Republican.
If you asked 10 different people what kind of "change" they were expecting from him, you'd probably get 10 different answers. Voters were projecting everything they wanted onto him as if he was speaking to them personally. But, his record was there. His history was there. Obama the President isn't any different than Obama the US Senator or Obama, the Illinois Senator. I'd say he's consistent. Voters didn't do their homework and a complicit media didn't help.
That is what 0bama meant when he said: "I'm a blank screen, and people will project onto me, their own ideology and political views" I'm paraphrasing him, don't have the exact quote. Most politicians try to hide their duplicity, deceit, and disingenuous rhetoric, but not 0bama.
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